Helping out a friend..

**LOGANXXX** · 09-12-2003, 09:19 AM

I have a friend that made over 8 cycles already, but he is not inside all the knowledge you guys have.....i just have to ask you guys for an advice, because í think he can improve his next cycle a lot.
he's 25, 1,85m 220lbs, 7 years working out hard.

his cycle:

WEEKS:
1-6 100MG/day hemogenin (same as anadrol -50), monday/sat
1-12 1g / sus
1-10 600MG/ deca
13-16 hcg /clomid
17-22 300mg/win
17-26 600mg/eq

I think this is kind messed up, but i dont wanna to give him a advice just from myself.
I'm counting on you guys.

Thanks a lot!!!!

**LOGANXXX** · 09-12-2003, 10:24 AM

bump...please thats lots of stuff..lets help him not to get fkd...

**NoLimits** · 09-12-2003, 10:28 AM

first off it lookis like he is running his post cycle treatment during the middle of his cycle! Yes, it may be a lot of gear for a cycle, but you said he has done eight cycles already ( that is a lot for someone only 25 by the way) so it may take him more gear now! But the cycle needs to be re-thought out! It is a bit strange to say the least!

**LOGANXXX** · 09-12-2003, 11:18 AM

Thats the first thing i think its strange...his having a pct in the midlle....

**MBaraso** · 09-12-2003, 11:33 AM

If he's going for 26 weeks he's gonna need hcg at the end plus clomid, which i would almost double the dosage on clomid from what is normally run.
Also since he's going to be on for that long I would strongly suggest running test for the entire lenght of the cycle. Maybe even screw the sus and go with either Cyp or Enth to keep his blood levels more on track.

**LOGANXXX** · 09-12-2003, 11:36 AM

Thanks MBaraso, but this four weeks break in the middle is unecessary wright?
What about that eq+win?? Don't you bros think its better for him to put the winnys at the end?
What about changing eq for fina?

**MBaraso** · 09-12-2003, 11:42 AM

I didn't even see that break cuz I read this thread half ass..sorry.
Yeah there's no reason for that break, actually I think that's a bad idea.
Something like this would be better,
Week 1-26 Test E 1gram
Week 1-12 Deca 600mgs
Week 12-23 Eq 600mgs
Week 21-26 Winny 50mgs ed
Clomid and Hcg post
If he wants to use fina that's ok but use it at the end of the cycle. Fina in this cycle however isn't really that nessasary IMO but to each his own.
I'd also look to throw in some anti e's and or some liquidex.

**LOGANXXX** · 09-12-2003, 11:52 AM

Do you think he should run nolva 10mg/ e day?

**Rickson** · 09-12-2003, 12:04 PM

I agree that the break will do nothing for recovery so it doesn't serve a purpose. I like one MBaraso has set up. I would run the winny two weeks past the enanthate but otherwise looks sound. He should use an anti-e with that much test for several reasons.