Any Steroids that dont need anti estrogens for 1 cycle?

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09-12-2003, 09:34 PM
Doughboyx64

Any Steroids that dont need anti estrogens for 1 cycle?

I cant get anti estrogens...is there any steroids that i can take 1 cycle and not need them? or am i just gunna have to take 1 ad and no steroids?
09-12-2003, 09:43 PM
JohnDoe1234

bro go online and type Nolvadex into a search engine, anti-e are abound everwhere
09-12-2003, 09:50 PM
Doughboyx64

yeah but is there any where i dont need them??
09-12-2003, 09:53 PM
JohnnyB

It all depends on the way your body reacts to the juice.

JohnnyB
09-12-2003, 09:56 PM
JohnDoe1234

You can run EQ with winstrol and have no prob, neither one of them convert
09-12-2003, 10:10 PM
one2lift

I wouldnt take a chance..otherwise you might find yourself shopping at Victoria's Secret ( not for your girlfreind either )
sorry...bad joke, but I wouldnt want to do a cycle without clomid or nolva on hand
09-12-2003, 10:17 PM
SuperBigZane

holy shit playa.. dont ever TAKE JUice without ANTi e

FIRST OF ALL

u need clomid/HCG post cycle REGARDLESS of any juice u take

to restore ur natural test or say good bye to all ur gains.
09-12-2003, 10:23 PM
JohnDoe1234

u need clomid/HCG post cycle REGARDLESS of any juice u take

to restore ur natural test or say good bye to all ur gains.[/QUOTE]

I agree, but Eq and winny will not convert to estrogen.
09-13-2003, 07:41 AM
taquipariu

I think everytime is needed, on hand.

You don´t need to use it during the cycle.

I am doing a cycle and I have tamoxifen and bromocriptine in hand.

I used furosemide for preventing bloat (water retention). It worked well for me, and I understand it helped preventing gyno, as soon as it prevented water retention from estrogens. It´s my opinion, I don´t know if it works like that.

I had no problem with gyno, and no bloat. Oh well, my face is a little ´lunar´, but I am thinner on my face than I was at the start of the cycle.

I think that you may have it on hand before starting any cycle. Why? Oh well, there are some great fakes, and mst of them are some type of testosterone. If you take something, but it is testosterone, you can have some problems. I haven´t got any problems more than itchy nipples sometimes, but you may not consider this as a pattern. People are different, and even if I do another cycle, I will have bromo and tamoxifen in hand!

My 1 cent.

Take a look at my diary... http://anabolicreview.com/vbulletin/...threadid=59658
09-13-2003, 07:50 AM
TheMudMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperBigZane

holy shit playa.. dont ever TAKE JUice without ANTi e

FIRST OF ALL

u need clomid/HCG post cycle REGARDLESS of any juice u take

to restore ur natural test or say good bye to all ur gains.

Not all cycles need you to use HCG to recover from. If your doing a short mild cycle like a test/dbol or test/winny then clomid and a anti-e durring PCT will get you going again. Long hard cycle are where I would use HCG/clomid.
09-13-2003, 08:57 AM
Billy_Bathgate

You will need clomid or nolva reguardless. EVERYTHING you take will have SOME impact on your HTPA and in order to restore that you will need something, or else you can suffer for a few months without it.

You need anti-e's. In order to a cycle thats at all worthwhile, you need test in it.
09-13-2003, 09:14 AM
PurePower

I would never run a cycle whiout an anti-E on hand(dont let Murphies law get you) bro....... its your body do what u want with
09-13-2003, 09:45 AM
Dirk D.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

It all depends on the way your body reacts to the juice.

JohnnyB

Well put! I have read that eq/winny and primobolin do not aromatise. But like johnnyb said, depends on your body!!!!!!!!!!!!
09-13-2003, 12:36 PM
johnsomebody

I used EQ 400mg/wk with low dose test, and Anavar the last few weeks and had zero bloat throughout. That was just my experience.
09-13-2003, 12:37 PM
johnsomebody

Oh, duh, that wasn't the question though, was it.
09-13-2003, 06:05 PM
Governor

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnDoe1234

You can run EQ with winstrol and have no prob, neither one of them convert

WAY off. They both shutdown the HTPA. you will need something to kickstart your test back up.

EQ DOES aromatize. Albiet slightly, but it does.
09-13-2003, 07:33 PM
JohnDoe1234

Quote:

Originally Posted by Governor

WAY off. They both shutdown the HTPA. you will need something to kickstart your test back up.

EQ DOES aromatize. Albiet slightly, but it does.

You do need something to restart the HTPA. But that is not the point I was trying to make. I was srictly speaking of armomatization. If he runs a cycle Of EQ and winny, It would be a total waste to run Nolv throughout the entire cycle. He will only need clomid at the end to restart test production.
09-17-2003, 10:31 AM
Doughboyx64

So just take the Clomid at the end of the cycle?? how much and for how long?
09-17-2003, 10:38 AM
JohnDoe1234

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doughboyx64

So just take the Clomid at the end of the cycle?? how much and for how long?

After about 10-14 days after your last shot, take 100mgs a day for 14 days.
09-17-2003, 10:41 AM
BUYLONGTERM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doughboyx64

So just take the Clomid at the end of the cycle?? how much and for how long?

CLOMID
day 1 300mg
day 2-10 100mg
day 11-21 - 50mg
09-17-2003, 11:42 AM
cfiler

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doughboyx64

I cant get anti estrogens...is there any steroids that i can take 1 cycle and not need them? or am i just gunna have to take 1 ad and no steroids?

If you can't get anti-e's, it's a dangerous waste of time, to do a cycle. Even with 1-ad you still need to take atleast 6oxo at the end of that cycle. In hind sight, I should have used clomid and nolva on my prohormone cycles. I found that 6oxo is way too weak, and not a good anti-e.
09-18-2003, 07:07 AM
UltimateFighter

I have never had any anti-e on hand and have been fine for 3 cycles
09-19-2003, 08:46 PM
OnDaJuice

Quote:

Originally Posted by taquipariu

I used furosemide for preventing bloat (water retention). It worked well for me, and I understand it helped preventing gyno, as soon as it prevented water retention from estrogens. It´s my opinion, I don´t know if it works like that.

No flame intended Bro but i thought that furosemide (lasix) was a loop dieretic, no anti e properties. Can someone please confirm this.
09-20-2003, 06:20 PM
JohnDoe1234

Quote:

Originally Posted by UltimateFighter

I have never had any anti-e on hand and have been fine for 3 cycles

What did your cycles look like?
09-20-2003, 07:00 PM
LightWeightBaby

ANTI E's............I LOVE THEM, why would you ever want to risk the chance of getting bitch tits, try being patient take your time you do not have to rush yourself when taking AAS. Look for anti e's you always want them on hand.