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    JKbaseball is offline Junior Member
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    SUGGESTIONS NEEDED!!!!! EQ/Winny/(TEST)

    I'm 21, 6'3, 200, w/ 14%bf.
    I've done one 8wk cycle of Deca over a year ago, and saw some descent gains.
    I'm an athlete, looking mainbly to gain strength, shred up a little bit, and add 10-15 more lbs.
    My next cycle was going to be as follows:
    wk 1-10 EQ 400mg/wk
    wk 8-13 Winny 50mg/ed
    clomid 2 days after last winny
    600mg 1st day
    100mg day2-10
    50mg day11-20
    How's that look?
    A lot of guys have been saying to add test in there, someone said test enanthate at 400mg/wk would be good.
    Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should do?
    If so, is enanthate at 400mg/wk sufficient?
    If so, how many weeks should I use the test for?
    Is the clomid at the end still going to be effective?
    And will I keep most of my gains?
    Thanks.
    -JK

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    Run the test one week past the EQ, so 400mg for eleven weeks. Your clomid seems high for the first day! Cut that in half. Yes, clomid at the end is very effective in helping you keep your gains. As far as keeping your gains, that will be up to you and your body. You really need to continue to train hard, eat clean and if your body recovers quickly.

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    Run the clomid
    300 mg 1st day
    100mg day2-10
    50mg day11-20

    Also, if your running 400mg of EQ, I'd bump the Test to 500mg a wk.

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    JKbaseball is offline Junior Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by buylongterm
    Run the clomid
    300 mg 1st day
    100mg day2-10
    50mg day11-20

    Also, if your running 400mg of EQ, I'd bump the Test to 500mg a wk.
    Would the cycle still be effective w/o the test?
    I'm trying to lay off of it for now because I'm still a beginner, and although I know I would see the most gains if test were included, I am hesitant mainly because I'm still young and I don't think I am done maturing; I don't want to mess with my growth plates before they are done closing on their own.
    If I do have to use the test, is the clomid at the end sufficient, or do I need to run nolva throughout? If so, how much nolva per day?
    Thanks guys.

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