1st cycle starts monday

**neubin** · 09-09-2003, 08:55 PM

Can you guys look this over for me once more to make sure im all good on this...

I will be taking:

Wks 1-11 Test Enth 500mg/wk(shot Mon/Thur)
Wks 7-12 Winny 50mg/ED
clomid wk13 with 300mg/1st day; 100mg/ED days 2-11; and 50mg/ED days 12-21

Use pnp liquidex .25mg per day and have two pnp Liquifin (liquid nolva) bottles on hand as well.

Milk thistle at 1000mg/ED because of winny's heptoxic side effect
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I have been given the suggestion to run my cycle like this instead:
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With .25mg of L-dex, you won't have much. I will suggest using 10mg of Nolva alongside the l-dex though.

I'd also put the winny at wks8-13, then start clomid 2 days after last injection/ingestion

Also, get some ALA and run 1000mg alongside the milk thistle to help in liver aid
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Should I add the Nolva to my orginal setup and also why should I go weeks 8-13 instead of 7-12 with winny?

Thanks guys, im gettin excited...

Cheers

**trimunex** · 09-09-2003, 09:00 PM

I'd hold the Nolva and use it in case of gyno signs. With a cycle like this liquidex is fine by itself throughout. It never hurts to run some ala along with the milk thistle. And YES, I'd move the Winny back one week .. then start the Clomid.

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**neubin** · 09-09-2003, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by trimunex

I'd hold the Nolva and use it in case of gyno signs. With a cycle like this liquidex is fine by itself throughout. It never hurts to run some ala along with the milk thistle. And YES, I'd move the Winny back one week .. then start the Clomid.

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why move the winny? Can you explain..is it the half life stuff?

Cheers

**hawk9603** · 09-09-2003, 09:19 PM

good luck on ur cycle bro

**symatech** · 09-09-2003, 09:24 PM

Actually I would extend the winny 1 week so its half life matches the test. then start clomid. just my thoughts. have fun with the cycle!

**Rookiejay** · 09-09-2003, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by symatech

Actually I would extend the winny 1 week so its half life matches the test. then start clomid. just my thoughts. have fun with the cycle!

concurred - either extend for one week, or run 8-13.

this way the PCT would be much more productive.

***JohnnyB*** · 09-09-2003, 10:16 PM

Go with just the test

JohnnyB

**neubin** · 09-09-2003, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Go with just the test

JohnnyB

Why do you say that Johnny?

**BDTR** · 09-09-2003, 10:37 PM

Most advocate a single steroid for your first cycle (test only)

**symatech** · 09-09-2003, 10:51 PM

Good call Johnny. Test alone would be better, but if you do run the winny I would run it so the half life matches. But again I must say that Johnny is right on here.

**trimunex** · 09-09-2003, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Go with just the test

JohnnyB

Even a better idea .. why didn't I say that earlier (stupid)!

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***JohnnyB*** · 09-09-2003, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by neubin

Why do you say that Johnny?

It's agood simple cycle, that with the right diet and training could give some nice gains. You have virgin receptors take advantage of them.

JohnnyB

**neubin** · 09-16-2003, 03:43 AM

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

It's agood simple cycle, that with the right diet and training could give some nice gains. You have virgin receptors take advantage of them.

JohnnyB

Thanks guys I took your advice..Test only for my first cycle...I am now going..I was nevervous as shit last night, I spent the day psyching myself up...and finally got the nerve to do it last night...

It wasnt the needle it was the "what ifs" that were scaring me...I finally said ok you got all the shit you needed, you should be good to go and did it....I didnt sleep too great I think the post shot jitters did me in but im happy the first shot is done...

My cycle...

1-11 weeks Test
Chlomid PT, Liquidex throughout, Nolva on hand, Clen at end of cycle, Cranberry Juice Extract 1000mg per day, Milk Thistle 1000mg per day, ALA 1000MG per day, Proscar 1.25 mg per day, and Nizoral....Lots of shit...also protein and Vitamins...and lots and lots of water...

Cheers.