1st cycle help and advice

**whoknows** · 09-17-2003, 12:53 PM

alright check it out...im 6 ft 21 , 190, 7-9% bf
ready for first cycle this si what i think ive narrowed it down to:
wk 1-11 test E 500mg
1-12 deca 400mg/w
1-4/maybe5 dbol 30-40 mg/ed
clomid
now should i throw in nolvadex or what..help a bro out

**Devildog99** · 09-17-2003, 01:05 PM

For your first cycle you should definetly use either nolvadex or proviron

**TRE** · 09-17-2003, 01:07 PM

pick one
50 proviron a day
20 nolv a day
25 pro 10 nolv a day

**ENraged** · 09-17-2003, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by whoknows

alright check it out...im 6 ft 21 , 190, 7-9% bf
ready for first cycle this si what i think ive narrowed it down to:
wk 1-11 test E 500mg
1-12 deca 400mg/w
1-4/maybe5 dbol 30-40 mg/ed
clomid
now should i throw in nolvadex or what..help a bro out

sure you wouldnt rather run some test with a splash of winny for your first cycle?!?
something simple like that

**TheMudMan** · 09-17-2003, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by ENraged

sure you wouldnt rather run some test with a splash of winny for your first cycle?!?
something simple like that

I agree.

Yes you should run nolva at 20mg ED. I would run it through the cycle until the end of PCT. Do you have a anti-prolactin on hand in case of gyno brought on by the deca ?

**whoknows** · 09-17-2003, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by ENraged

sure you wouldnt rather run some test with a splash of winny for your first cycle?!?
something simple like that

i have considerd this, i just heard alot ab what i said earlier...have u done winnie and test? if so please let me know how it went...did u take anything along woiht that?
thanx bro

**TheMudMan** · 09-17-2003, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by whoknows

i have considerd this, i just heard alot ab what i said earlier...have u done winnie and test? if so please let me know how it went...did u take anything along woiht that?
thanx bro

I did and my gains were very good. I used the winny for the last 6 weeks to help harden up my gains.

Here was the cycle:
Wk 1-10 400mg Cyp
Wk 8-13 50mg Winny ED
Wk 1 - PCT 20mg Nolva ED
Clomid started 1 day after last winny dose

**whoknows** · 09-17-2003, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

I did and my gains were very good. I used the winny for the last 6 weeks to help harden up my gains.

Here was the cycle:
Wk 1-10 400mg Cyp
Wk 8-13 50mg Winny ED
Wk 1 - PCT 20mg Nolva ED
Clomid started 1 day after last winny dose

any reason behind the cyp over the E

**TheMudMan** · 09-17-2003, 06:36 PM

Nope.... It was what I could get at the time. Either way test is test. This upcomming cycle I will be running Enan because it was cheaper and I could get it quicker.

**Rookiejay** · 09-17-2003, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by whoknows

alright check it out...im 6 ft 21 , 190, 7-9% bf
ready for first cycle this si what i think ive narrowed it down to:
wk 1-11 test E 500mg
1-12 deca 400mg/w
1-4/maybe5 dbol 30-40 mg/ed
clomid
now should i throw in nolvadex or what..help a bro out

at 7% bf and 21yo - I wouldn't waste $$ on winny - just get some extra nolva and run at 20mg ed. ---

I'd go with the one you have -it's a good cycle for you --- just switch test and deca, so you run test 1 week past deca. -
- if you pick up some extra fat - run it off after the cycle.

**bornbad71** · 09-17-2003, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by whoknows

alright check it out...im 6 ft 21 , 190, 7-9% bf
ready for first cycle this si what i think ive narrowed it down to:
wk 1-11 test E 500mg
1-12 deca 400mg/w
1-4/maybe5 dbol 30-40 mg/ed
clomid
now should i throw in nolvadex or what..help a bro out

our stats are are real close except i'm about 10 yrs older...cycle is real close to mine too(no deca for me, no reason) i'm gonna run proviron /nolvadex (50mgs/20mgs)ed...hope this helps and good luck bro.

**whoknows** · 09-17-2003, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by bornbad71

our stats are are real close except i'm about 10 yrs older...cycle is real close to mine too(no deca for me, no reason) i'm gonna run proviron/nolvadex(50mgs/20mgs)ed...hope this helps and good luck bro.

not trying to sound dumb or nothin but why exactly did u go w/o deca ? just wonderin.. thanx alot bro for the tips

**ENraged** · 09-17-2003, 07:57 PM

what is the target weight you trying to get to here> i am about to start a test and winny cycle with a few other goodies maybe but i have been researching them like crazy. driving most of these people nuts in here in the mean time. but i want a test cycle but also going to kick start it as well. but that is just me. i wouldnt advise it for anyone else.

**whoknows** · 09-17-2003, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by ENraged

what is the target weight you trying to get to here> i am about to start a test and winny cycle with a few other goodies maybe but i have been researching them like crazy. driving most of these people nuts in here in the mean time. but i want a test cycle but also going to kick start it as well. but that is just me. i wouldnt advise it for anyone else.

i put on pretty easy my body reacts well...im nto looking to go any higher than 215 i guess

**bornbad71** · 09-18-2003, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by whoknows

not trying to sound dumb or nothin but why exactly did u go w/o deca? just wonderin.. thanx alot bro for the tips

My main reason is I only have 1 10ml deca 200. When I posted my thread it was brought up but what I have is all I can get right now...not starting until feb. 04...if I can get more between now and then, then I might add it. bb71