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    anyone have any final thoughts on my cycle?

    Monday i will be starting

    d-bol 20mg a day for about 4 weeks
    test enan 500mg a week for 10 weeks.
    10mg nolvadex all the way through ( i may bump this to 20mg about half way through)
    Clomid for post cycle for about a month starting 2 weeks after last shot of enan.

    i have my diet in order, and my routine down. i will be a doing a 4 day work out, im not quit as lean as i want, but i can continue to work on that through and after my cycle.


    Stats are
    Age 26
    weight 185lbs
    6'0'' tall

    I think im about 13-14% BF right now. (would like to be under 10%)

    been training for about 3 years, and seriuos the last year of it.


    Monday chest and tris (cardio in the AM, weights in afternoon)
    Tuesday back and bi's
    Wed Abs (no weights) (cardio in the AM weights in the afternoon)
    Thursday shoulders and traps
    Friday Abs (no weights)(cardio in the AM weights in the afternoon)
    Saturday Legs
    sunday off

    i also take

    multivitamine
    flax seed oil
    vitamine E
    glucosamine
    fish oil
    cod liver oil
    ginko
    calcium
    zink
    Vitamine C
    About a gallon of water or more a day. sometime i drink green tea with the water for some flavoring.

    i think thats it.

    one last question. I take optimum 100% whey right after all activity along with about 3 times throught the day with some vegies that i eat. is the optimum whey gonna ge me through my cycle, or do i need to add a meal replacment, or a multiprotien blend to this as well? I know whey protien is really light and doesnt stick around ver long in your system. i will be taking about 200grams through out the day in the whey on top of what i will be eating.


    Anyone final thoughts from anyone would be great. since im starting monday i may have time to change something by then.

    Thanks

    Shim
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    I would bump the d-bol to 30mgs ed, and I wouldn't run novla unless I was prone to gyno.

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    GREAT CYCLE! You can optionally move the d-bol up, but see how you react at this dose. STICK WITH THE NOLVADEX at 20mg's everyday. You'd rather not get bloated and hold tons of water (where the additional weight comes from) while possibly having a nice rack. Way to do your homework, my friend!

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    Again, great way to make a post. You listed everything. KUDOS

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    Looks good. You can try running the nolva at 10mg ED and see how it works out for you.... if you start to bloat a little bump it to 20mg and run it that way all the way through to the end of PCT.

    With the whey protein..... try not to depend on shakes over food. I eat 7 real meals a day with one 40g of protein with carbs before I train, one 40g shake with honey after I'm done, and than another 40g at around 2 AM w/ flax.

    Good luck on the cycle!

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    Mudman, do you have any cholesteral issues with 3 protein shakes a day? I was reading the label and it is pretty high.

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    None at all. What king of protein do you buy mine has 0 cholesteral. My family has all kinds of heart and cholesteral problems so I make sure my diet is VERY clean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    None at all. What king of protein do you buy mine has 0 cholesteral. My family has all kinds of heart and cholesteral problems so I make sure my diet is VERY clean.
    Not meaning to hijack a thread, but I use GNC and it has 70mgs per scoop. I guess Ill have to change brands, what do you use? I eat very clean as well and was limiting myself to 1 protein shake a day as 2 scoops is half my daily allowance of cholesteral.

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    I use Pro-Rated protein from Allsportnutrition.com

    It's $37 for 10lbs can't beat the price and it doesn't have any cholesteral in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    I use Pro-Rated protein from Allsportnutrition.com

    It's $37 for 10lbs can't beat the price and it doesn't have any cholesteral in it.
    I didnt see the brand ProRated on the site. Is that the brand name?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    I'll give it a try, thanks!

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    Thanks for all the replys guys, make me feel more confident that im on the right track. Im scared shitless about my first shot on monday. Mudman how much honey in your shake? that sounds good.

    Thanks again Bros

    shim

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    I use about 2 to 3 tablespoons full in my protein only after my workout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    I use about 2 to 3 tablespoons full in my protein only after my workout.

    cool thanks man

    Shim

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    6 foot, 185
    he needs some bloat

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    I use about 2 to 3 tablespoons full in my protein only after my workout.
    Does that make it tough to clean your blender?

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    Cycle

    I'd bump D-bol to 30mg and stack it with Deca or EQ. I'd hang on to nolva until you think you might need it. Run L-dex with it. Besides that it lokks good.

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