Second cycle....give me opinions

**fifty-five** · 09-24-2003, 08:40 AM

I am planning the second cycle. I did Deca the first one and kinda want to change it up. Want to get Good Size and strenght so here is what I planned.

Dbol 20mg qd wk 1-4 (doing 20 cause 30 shot enzymes way up)
EQ 800 mg q week
Test enan 500 mg q week

Any more suggestions. I mainly want good strenght. I would go with Deca, but had a couple of bros have some questionable gyno and kinda spooked me.

fifty

**toolman** · 09-24-2003, 08:43 AM

I think thats way too much Eq. There is no need to do more than 400mg's for only your second cycle.

**halifaxsteve** · 09-24-2003, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by toolman

I think thats way too much Eq. There is no need to do more than 400mg's for only your second cycle.

i agree..the EQ is a little too high IMO

how long are you planning on running everything?

do you have anti-e's?

deca (progesterone) induced gyno is rare. if you did deca before without an appropriate anti-e, it's obvious you aren't sensitive to it.

FYI eq can still aromitize, albeit at a very low rate.

**MBaraso** · 09-24-2003, 08:54 AM

I agree with Tool 800mgs is too high for you.
But if strength is what your looking for then go with fina instead of Eq.

**wimp** · 09-24-2003, 09:15 AM

I would raise the dbol up to 30mg and lower the eq to 400 mg. Keep the test at 500mg. Dont forget anti es and clomid.

**fifty-five** · 09-24-2003, 12:30 PM

I did the 30qd of deca my first cycle. it raised my liver enzymes way hight. that is why I want to cut down to 20 qd

the first cycle was like this

Deca 300 qweek x 10
test enan 400 qwk x 10
dbol 30 qd x 4 wks
EQ 200 mg qweek weeks 5-10

I got huge.

I am now maintaining at 320. I am a big guy that is why I should go to 800 of the EQ.

I am torn between the Deca and the EQ. I want the erythropoeisis and vascularity with it though.

DD

**fifty-five** · 09-24-2003, 12:32 PM

I forgot....

I am planning on running it for 15 weeks. (test EQ)

I do have armidex.

Could get bromo if I did Deca

holla at me

fifty

**BUYLONGTERM** · 09-24-2003, 12:54 PM

Lower the EQ and I'd run the Test higher than the EQ

**hybrid** · 09-25-2003, 07:29 AM

If you take the EQ at 400 per week that is still twice what you took the first cycle. Plus you will be taking it from week one. If you were happy with the first cycle, a smaller step up like this would make sense. No use giving your body more than it needs or can tolerate.