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    Question Quick cycle question

    im gonna start a test ethanate dbol cycle in bout a month
    600mg test for 10 weeks
    30mg dbol per day runnin 4 weeks

    one guy told me that i shouldnt take clomid because its more bad than good, it raises ur estrogen levels way higher wen the test leaves ur body so its gonna fuk me over. shud i take nolvadex or anything? cuz im probably gonna run this cycle again so jus wunderin, i am 190lbs with 14% bf

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    First cycle? If so, back the test down to 500

    Yes, you need clomid. Who ever told you that is off his rocker. Clomid is a mild synthetic estrogen, and by binding to the estrogen receptor, it tricks the body into thinking estrogen is being produced. The body then starts testosterone production to compensate the estro increase
    wk1-4 30-35mf dbol
    wk1-10 500mg Enan
    clomid 2wks after last injection
    Best to use 20mg of Nolva throughout the entire cycle(including clomid)

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    Clomid is what will help you keep your gains and get your test production going again. And yes run a anti-e durring your cycle and PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pheedno
    First cycle? If so, back the test down to 500

    Yes, you need clomid. Who ever told you that is off his rocker. Clomid is a mild synthetic estrogen, and by binding to the estrogen receptor, it tricks the body into thinking estrogen is being produced. The body then starts testosterone production to compensate the estro increase
    wk1-4 30-35mf dbol
    wk1-10 500mg Enan
    clomid 2wks after last injection
    Best to use 20mg of Nolva throughout the entire cycle(including clomid)
    I was wondering the same thing but he said he will be running this cycle again. It looks like there was really no research done here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    I was wondering the same thing but he said he will be running this cycle again. It looks like there was really no research done here.

    I assumed he meant again after this coming up cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pheedno
    First cycle? If so, back the test down to 500

    Yes, you need clomid. Who ever told you that is off his rocker. Clomid is a mild synthetic estrogen, and by binding to the estrogen receptor, it tricks the body into thinking estrogen is being produced. The body then starts testosterone production to compensate the estro increase
    wk1-4 30-35mf dbol
    wk1-10 500mg Enan
    clomid 2wks after last injection
    Best to use 20mg of Nolva throughout the entire cycle(including clomid)
    Pheedno, your saying run nolva all the way threw the pct also? Would it help to add or at least have proviron also?

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    yea i meant after i finish this cycle, im gonna take 8 weeks off and do it again. I havent done it b4...im jus on protein n creatine rite now

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxmuscle187
    yea i meant after i finish this cycle, im gonna take 8 weeks off and do it again. I havent done it b4...im jus on protein n creatine rite now
    Bro if your gonna run a 10 wk. cycle then atleast stay off that long...in my opinion 8 wks. off is not long enough....Time On=Time Off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bornbad71
    Pheedno, your saying run nolva all the way threw the pct also? Would it help to add or at least have proviron also?

    I've never had a need for proviron . I use a l-dex/Nolva combo throughout the cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pheedno
    I've never had a need for proviron. I use a l-dex/Nolva combo throughout the cycle
    Thanks bro....I'll do a search on liquidex...read and learn a lot more about it.

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