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09-28-2003, 05:08 PM #1
First sterroid cycle...make sense??
I am starting my first cycle on steroids ....I'm using test proponate only and doing the following:
Week 1: 1cc
Week 2: 1cc
Week 3: 1.5cc
Week 4: 2cc
Week 5: 2cc
Week 6: 1.5cc
Week 7: 1cc
Week 8: 1cc
as reccomended by a friend that I have seen get massive gains...He has used this in combination with decca. I am planing on doing one more cycle after this and stacking with decca...I am a small cut guy that wants to put on mass, never have a problem stayin cut. Does this plan make sense? And how long should i wait between cycles?? Thanks for any feedback...
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09-28-2003, 05:33 PM #2VET
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This doesn't make sense. Prop should be taken EOD, not 1 time a week.
And there's no need to pyramid anything anymore.
If you want to run a basic test for your first cycle, I suggest get some Enanthate or Cypionate :
1-10 Enan @ 400 - 500 mg's week
12-13 PCT
What are your stats (age, weight, training experience, etc) ??Last edited by KeyMastur; 09-28-2003 at 05:43 PM.
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09-28-2003, 05:42 PM #3Junior Member
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Time on a cycle equals time off a cycle. get some clomid if you can.
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09-28-2003, 05:46 PM #4
Also note that you wont feel any strength until about the 4th to 6th week of injections.
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09-28-2003, 05:48 PM #5
bad idea bro, run a longer acting ester such as cyp or enathate and run it for 10 weeks, id atleast throw some eq in there...Madmax
eq 400mg (1-11)
test 500mg (1-12)
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09-28-2003, 05:52 PM #6Originally Posted by KeyMastur
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09-28-2003, 06:21 PM #7
stats
Thanks for the advice....i'm not staring the cycle yet i'm just doing research right now...but i am 23, 140lbs.. want to put on mass...so you say no pyramiding?? Do you not reccomend test prop?? even stacked with decca??
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09-28-2003, 06:25 PM #8
Test prop is not really recommended because of how frequently you need to inject it.
The reason that pyramiding isn't really common practice anymore is because of the advances in post cycle treatment. Anytime you're running a cycle you need to get some nolvadex in case you start to get gyno, and clomid in order to get your own testosterone production going again and make sure you don't lose your gains.
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09-28-2003, 06:39 PM #9
otc
Originally Posted by chrisAdams
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09-28-2003, 07:29 PM #10Originally Posted by JEO3
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09-28-2003, 07:34 PM #11
clomid
Originally Posted by Da Bull
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09-28-2003, 07:42 PM #12Originally Posted by JEO3
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09-28-2003, 07:44 PM #13
depends on the type of AS used as to when PCT starts...also what is your diet and training like i wo uld think a person could easily be over 140.
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09-28-2003, 07:52 PM #14
training
Originally Posted by someday
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09-28-2003, 07:55 PM #15Originally Posted by Da Bull
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09-28-2003, 08:10 PM #16Originally Posted by JEO3
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09-28-2003, 08:28 PM #17Originally Posted by Da Bull
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09-28-2003, 08:49 PM #18Originally Posted by JEO3
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09-28-2003, 10:04 PM #19New Member
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I cut you a break on your last post about not knowing what a cc/ml/mg was. Im sorry you need to seriously just leave the juice alone. Go to the educational threads and read everyone of them memorize them before you even think about picking up another needle I seen on another one of your post you asked about using a 21g needle and your using prop thats insane. You said you cant fing anything besides that Im sorry but if your source cant get you some darts then he is an idiot. In my honest opinion which you can take for what its worth to you, you are a long ways away from being ready to take AS. You say you are 23y/o and 140# how tall are you? Seriously though brother I say this out of concern not flaming you at all by your questions and beliefs on such basic things you have not educated yourself enough on this subject to be using anything.
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09-28-2003, 10:12 PM #20Originally Posted by LocoLeprechaun
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09-28-2003, 10:15 PM #21
hey man I would go with a 23gauge 1.5 in the glute, why go bigger if you do not need to, your ass will be happier with your choice. I would say test enanthate 2 shots a week(500mg total). First cycle most people here would say not EQ or Deca , I personally think that Test will work better when stacked with EQ or Deca.
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09-28-2003, 10:29 PM #22New Member
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Like I said bro Im not trying to flame you just a little concerned and you say now that you have not used anything just doing research but in your other thread you said :
Yesterday, 07:31 PM
can someone explain measurements (cc/ml/mg) Post #1
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I am new to steroids and injections period, so at the risk of sounding like a dumbass...what is the difference between cc, ml, and mg...i am taking 1 cc injections but how does that interpret into ml and mg...which most suggested cycles are posted in?? any clerification appreciated....
So I was under the impression that you were using already and your right your can use a 21g neddle if your want I just dont see the point when you would easily be able to use a 25g and not have half the pain and if you were going to use the prop the right way you would have to do ED or at the least EOD injections and that would get painfull with a 21g alot faster the it would with a 25g. As far as me not posting to your threads if I dont want to help you I only posted cause I though I was wasnt trying to be an ass to you by any means. Its nice to have other people to help you but you have to remember they are not always right either so it is always a good idea to do your own research also. Again you are right this is the question forum but like you were instructed when you joined to please read the educational threads before posting because most of your more commonly asked questions can be answered by doing so. I wish you the best of luck bro be safe.
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09-28-2003, 10:37 PM #23Originally Posted by LightWeightBaby
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09-28-2003, 10:39 PM #24Originally Posted by LocoLeprechaun
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09-28-2003, 10:45 PM #25
conclusion
So, combining all the suggestions i'll totally throw out that original plan...and start new...i'm kinda hemed into the prop though so what's everyone's thoughts on this cycle
10 weeks
300mg/week test prop
(followed by clomid 3 days after last injection)Clom day1 300mgs,day2-11 100mgs,day 12-21 50mgs
and nolvadex on hand if i need it....
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09-28-2003, 10:59 PM #26Originally Posted by JEO3
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09-28-2003, 11:00 PM #27Originally Posted by JEO3
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09-28-2003, 11:10 PM #28
i would go with enanthate as well..4-500 mg week broken into 2 shots
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09-28-2003, 11:13 PM #29Originally Posted by depdaddy
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09-29-2003, 03:00 PM #30Originally Posted by JEO3
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