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    Exclamation Please help with first post cycle

    Ok I am going to do my first cycle and this is what it looks like:
    week1-3: 250mg sustanon
    week4-7: 500mg sustanon
    week 7-10: 250 mg sustanon

    I am 6'0" tall, 163 lbs, and 4%body fat, first cycle.
    My concern is the post cycle. I want to keep as much as I can. I don't want to gain 15lbs to then lose it all (big waste of time).
    this is what I have come up with for my post cycle recovery.

    week 8-10: Proviron 25mg (daily), Nolvadex 20 mg (daily)
    week 10: 3, 5000 i.u. HCG in a row
    week 11: 3, 5000 i.u. HCG every 5 days, Cytadren 120 mg morning, 62.5 mg two times.
    week 11-13: cytadren

    I am also planing on using clomid after my last Hcg, 2 50mg daily on the first week and 50mg daily on the second.
    It is very clear that I have done my research but all info I read says something different.
    I would greatly appreciate your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c_buz
    Ok I am going to do my first cycle and this is what it looks like:
    week1-3: 250mg sustanon
    week4-7: 500mg sustanon
    week 7-10: 250 mg sustanon

    I am 6'0" tall, 163 lbs, and 4%body fat, first cycle.
    My concern is the post cycle. I want to keep as much as I can. I don't want to gain 15lbs to then lose it all (big waste of time).
    this is what I have come up with for my post cycle recovery.

    week 8-10: Proviron 25mg (daily), Nolvadex 20 mg (daily)
    week 10: 3, 5000 i.u. HCG in a row
    week 11: 3, 5000 i.u. HCG every 5 days, Cytadren 120 mg morning, 62.5 mg two times.
    week 11-13: cytadren

    I am also planing on using clomid after my last Hcg, 2 50mg daily on the first week and 50mg daily on the second.
    It is very clear that I have done my research but all info I read says something different.
    I would greatly appreciate your help.
    4% body fat? that, if true, is unhealthy.
    i don't like the pyramid....taper down to 250 in final weeks, run 500 till then
    run proviron throughout the entire cycle
    i personally don't think you'll need the hcg, but make sure you run the clomid 3-4 weeks after the last sus shot

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    Quote Originally Posted by asymmetrical1
    4% body fat? that, if true, is unhealthy.
    i don't like the pyramid....taper down to 250 in final weeks, run 500 till then
    run proviron throughout the entire cycle
    i personally don't think you'll need the hcg, but make sure you run the clomid 3-4 weeks after the last sus shot
    Well, I don't know how accurate the 4% is. It was done with one of those "electronic" measuring devices that you hold in front of you and then squeeze both handles. Why do you think I should skip the HCG ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by c_buz
    Well, I don't know how accurate the 4% is. It was done with one of those "electronic" measuring devices that you hold in front of you and then squeeze both handles. Why do you think I should skip the HCG?
    i use hcg on my cycles which are 16 weeks or longer. my cycles usually involve deca , a major reason i use it to help recover my hpta. i use it midcycle and post cycle. hcg helps hpta recovery and prolongs it at the same time. your cycle is only 10 weeks and you aren't using deca so i would save the hcg

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    Quote Originally Posted by asymmetrical1
    i use hcg on my cycles which are 16 weeks or longer. my cycles usually involve deca, a major reason i use it to help recover my hpta. i use it midcycle and post cycle. hcg helps hpta recovery and prolongs it at the same time. your cycle is only 10 weeks and you aren't using deca so i would save the hcg
    So everything else looks fine? How much clomid should I go for per week? I was also thinking to stack with deca but I am afraid of water retention. I want quality mass.

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    I would do more research if you considered doing one cc of sustanon 250 for 6 weeks during your cycle. Why not do enanthate ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by c_buz
    So everything else looks fine? How much clomid should I go for per week? I was also thinking to stack with deca but I am afraid of water retention. I want quality mass.
    how will you be injecting the sus? needs to be frequent like eod. you could get by twice a week but i dont recommend it. get lquidex, anti-e that helps prevent bloat. for clomid: 300mg day 1, 100mg day2, 50mg/day through day 21

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    Do not taper and I would run at a minimum 750mg of SUS per week.


    1 - 10 SUS @ 750mg
    1 - 13 Proviron @ 50mg ED

    3 weeks after last injection run PCT and stop Proviron. Use Clomid and Nolva to recover there's no need to use HCG for this cycle.

    PCT:
    Day 1 Clomid 300mg / Nolva 20mg
    Day 2 - 11 Clomid 100mg / Nolva 20mg
    Day 12 - 21 Clomid 50mg / Nolva 20mg

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    minimum of 750mg/week for a first cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by asymmetrical1
    minimum of 750mg/week for a first cycle?
    Yep.

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    guess it will make it easier , 1 amp eod

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