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10-10-2003, 03:55 PM
ross3814

new shanghai

does anyone have any recent batches of shanghai labs test enanthate? i just started a cycle and this shit burns like an evil force. the injections arent bad, but ive taken 2 shots so far and the following days are hell! the part that is injected is immobilized for 3 or 4 days also gets red, hard and kinda swollen, i still cant move my sholder from 3 days ago, and when i took a glute shot i couldnt walk too much for about 4 days. my guy said that they are slightly overdosed and that might be the cause. im taking a quad shot today and im gonna split the shot to both sides and see if that helps at all. im just wondering what the hell is going on and if anybody else is getting these problems. this shit cant be that effective if it causes too much pain to work out.
10-10-2003, 04:36 PM
Tuggy

Check you pm's.
10-10-2003, 05:08 PM
motoxxxguy

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Originally Posted by ross3814

...this shit burns like an evil force.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
10-10-2003, 06:03 PM
ross3814

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10-12-2003, 07:05 AM
NCBB

I am taking Shanghai Labs test enanthate and EQ. Each shot is painless till the next day and then it makes me limp for 3 days. Also I have to switch needles after I draw because the needle is so dull from the thick, hard rubber, it will not start in my leg.
I am in the first weeks of this cycle and I do think it will be a good cycle... if I can ever work my legs!!!

I know we are not the only 2 people dealing with this?????
10-12-2003, 08:05 AM
Tuggy

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Originally Posted by NCBB

I am taking Shanghai Labs test enanthate and EQ. Each shot is painless till the next day and then it makes me limp for 3 days. Also I have to switch needles after I draw because the needle is so dull from the thick, hard rubber, it will not start in my leg.
I am in the first weeks of this cycle and I do think it will be a good cycle... if I can ever work my legs!!!

I know we are not the only 2 people dealing with this?????

I have the same exact thing. It doesn't hurt right away, but about 10 hours later it really starts and lasts for a few days. I still like this shit though. I noticed some changing going on after about three or four days on the prop. I also am using the deca 250 and Test E 250. All SL.
10-12-2003, 08:34 AM
Ntpadude

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Originally Posted by Tuggy

I have the same exact thing. It doesn't hurt right away, but about 10 hours later it really starts and lasts for a few days. I still like this shit though. I noticed some changing going on after about three or four days on the prop. I also am using the deca 250 and Test E 250. All SL.

Limit yourself to 1.5 CC per shot and it wont hurt too bad... mine is only a dull ache in the butt at 1.5 CC but it means 2 shots a week.
10-12-2003, 08:39 AM
Tuggy

I don't want to hijack this thread, but I already do two shots a week of the deca and test e. I do the prop ed. I wanted the bro to understand it wasn't just him, prop in the quads CAN be a bitch.
10-12-2003, 08:47 AM
NCBB

I am doing 2 shots a week but need a third to get my test levels up to what I normally do. Each shot is 2 cc with EQ and Test in the same pin. Butt shots are out for me... My wife will not help and I can't turn that far to self inject. I have tryed!! Quads are it for me

Do you have the same problem with dulling the pin when sticking the bottle?
10-12-2003, 08:50 AM
TheJuicer

I have noticed that my RT rubber top is very hard to go though and I'm sure it dulls the needle a bit...the mex. stuff I used to use went right though...
10-12-2003, 08:50 AM
Tuggy

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCBB

I am doing 2 shots a week but need a third to get my test levels up to what I normally do. Each shot is 2 cc with EQ and Test in the same pin. Butt shots are out for me... My wife will not help and I can't turn that far to self inject. I have tryed!! Quads are it for me

Do you have the same problem with dulling the pin when sticking the bottle?

Bro, the rubber on SL seems to be extremely thick. I f***ed up a few days ago and used the same pin to draw the deca, test E and Prop. Then stuck that in my quad, it sucked. I just forgot to change pins and was in a hurry to get out the door. It won't happen again.
10-12-2003, 08:58 AM
NCBB

I did that too and will not make that mistake twice!!!
Felt like it took both hands to get the pin to break the skin LOL LOL
10-12-2003, 08:59 AM
NCBB

Do you think the added soreness is worth it? Are you getting good gains from your SL??
10-12-2003, 09:12 AM
Ntpadude

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Originally Posted by NCBB

Do you think the added soreness is worth it? Are you getting good gains from your SL??

You gotta change the needles! I just took my 3rd week's and I am getting the increased sex drive effect. Also I think like for me I get glute shot on Sat then go ride a riding mower for an hour so it like shakes and vibrates it in and I think this helps (massage the site type thing), it also helps to walk around and move the muscle some after the shot, helps distribute it around... Speaking of increased sex drive, I was riding around on the riding mower with boner, weed eated the yard with a boner.... damn boner wont go away, getting used to going everywhere and doing everything with a boner, hehehe... Oh well, makes me feel like an 18 year old again!

I am seeing increasing strength and other good effects and I am doing SL deca 250/test 475 a week. It hasnt been quite long enough to see big weight gains yet but I am up about 4 lbs already and post workout muscle pumps are starting to last a little longer... As for personality effects.... I am feeling like a million bucks and I am normally a quiet person and lately have been more outgoing, but that could be psycological effects about feeling good about doing something to improve my body.
10-12-2003, 09:18 AM
NCBB

I pay someone to cut the grass lol
I know the what you mean about the boner. Test always does that to me and I am 43. I think I would do test even if I didn't lift :)
10-12-2003, 09:36 AM
Ntpadude

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Originally Posted by NCBB

I pay someone to cut the grass lol
I know the what you mean about the boner. Test always does that to me and I am 43. I think I would do test even if I didn't lift :)

Yea I would dare say, not only is testosterone WAAAAY stronger then viagra, but damn sex is like best I ever had. My wife is one that doesnt like sex but once every 2 weeks to a month and while she was mad at first when I told her I was going to do steroids, well damn, now she wants it every other night and my improved sex drive is keeping up. Man the sensativity is "better" then when I was 18 and the orgasms... man best I ever had in my life!!!

I agree, I could do future cycles just for the improved sex life effect more then for the bigger muscles!

- Ntpadude, the guy whose doing a lot of smiling these days!
10-12-2003, 09:36 AM
J-Bud

Hmm, I'm not having any trouble with the SL stuff, but its about a month or so old... I would be a bit worried about the redness and hard inject point I think. Are you sterilizing the top of the cap before putting the pin in?
And I always, always switch pins after withdrawl it does not matter how soft the stopper is. I want that damn pin as sharp as possible!!
10-12-2003, 10:37 AM
NCBB

It feels a bit swolen but is not enlarged or red for me. Not even alittle...just sore
10-12-2003, 10:50 AM
Ntpadude

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Originally Posted by NCBB

It feels a bit swolen but is not enlarged or red for me. Not even alittle...just sore

I think that is just the process of the oil in the shot being broken down by the water in the body... takes couple days then clears up.
10-12-2003, 11:06 AM
ross3814

i think that something isnt right, i split up the dosages to a measly half a cc in each 2 days ago, and now i am walking like i have cerebral palsy, i mean, this is fuckin bad. i cant deal with this for 10 weeks. i am having a very difficult time walking.
10-12-2003, 11:21 AM
jdog55

When i was in the army, we had our first set of shots. Some people were almost crying they were in such pain for weeks from that one set of shots. A lot of people said it was the worst pain they had ever experienced but i didn't even feel it but for a couple days after. Some people are real sensitive others are not.

Jdog55

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10-12-2003, 12:34 PM
Ntpadude

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Originally Posted by ross3814

i think that something isnt right, i split up the dosages to a measly half a cc in each 2 days ago, and now i am walking like i have cerebral palsy, i mean, this is fuckin bad. i cant deal with this for 10 weeks. i am having a very difficult time walking.

When you shoot, make sure muscle is completely relaxed and dont tense it while the needle is in.... when done give it some "vigorous deep massage" to squeeze and work it around... and up and walking around is good... this is from my neighbor who is health care professional used to giving shots and this is standard advice for all shots... he did say however for me, the pain and after effects I am describing is actually less then most people experience so maybe I am having less problems then others with the same chemicals.... also its not unusual for the first 2 or 3 shots to be the worst, then your injection areas get accustomed to it and hurts much less.
10-12-2003, 05:04 PM
ross3814

i am running out of spots though. i got a good idea. im going to put my girlfriends vibrator on it after the shot and see if that helps. i am not sure that i am sensitive to shots because i have never had a prob with any before, just reg medical shots though. i took a few shots os QV equipoise too and it didnt even phase me.
10-12-2003, 05:15 PM
Ntpadude

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Originally Posted by ross3814

i am running out of spots though. i got a good idea. im going to put my girlfriends vibrator on it after the shot and see if that helps. i am not sure that i am sensitive to shots because i have never had a prob with any before, just reg medical shots though. i took a few shots os QV equipoise too and it didnt even phase me.

Thats a pretty sight I would say.... a man holding a vibrating thing that looks like a big dick against his glute....
10-12-2003, 08:11 PM
J-Bud

LMAO you might get some strange looks from the girl on that one...or she might get some crazy ideas!!!
10-12-2003, 08:21 PM
G-S

My SL stuff has been pain free, except for the prop, which has a lil kick to it. (What prop doesn't)

I've tried/used most of their stuff, and the enanthate hasn't given me any problems.
10-12-2003, 08:48 PM
ross3814

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Originally Posted by NCBB

Do you think the added soreness is worth it? Are you getting good gains from your SL??

i have only been taking it for a week and a half, so i got a ways before i see results. but i think the only way that it is worth it is if i put on friggin 30 lbs.!
10-12-2003, 08:50 PM
ross3814

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Originally Posted by Ntpadude

Thats a pretty sight I would say.... a man holding a vibrating thing that looks like a big dick against his glute....

hahaha yea no shit. mabey it will help though.
10-12-2003, 11:17 PM
Ntpadude

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Originally Posted by J-Bud

LMAO you might get some strange looks from the girl on that one...or she might get some crazy ideas!!!

No doubt... it reminds me of a couple that lived next door until about 3 years ago... me and my wife couldnt believe it when they straight faced said they liked to put a strap on dil-doe on the wife and she would screw her husband with it up the backside... kind of like roll reversal or some bull crap.. in other words she would pretend to be the man and he would pretend to be the woman...
10-13-2003, 06:30 AM
NCBB

I have done 3 other brands of test and EQ. I have stuck it in a nerve and had my share of sore injections.
This is different.... way different. I limp when I walk and can't work my legs for 5 days after a Quad shot.
I am guessing that those that have not felt this from SL gear must not have this batch. I am hope it is overdosed and just really good. I will continue on it for a few weeks and see.
Except for my leg soreness.... I feel great and look like I am growing daily. I am up 8 lbs. I eat a ton of food while on a cycle. I realize I would gain weight without the gear if I ate like this.
10-13-2003, 04:57 PM
ross3814

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCBB

I have done 3 other brands of test and EQ. I have stuck it in a nerve and had my share of sore injections.
This is different.... way different. I limp when I walk and can't work my legs for 5 days after a Quad shot.
I am guessing that those that have not felt this from SL gear must not have this batch. I am hope it is overdosed and just really good. I will continue on it for a few weeks and see.
Except for my leg soreness.... I feel great and look like I am growing daily. I am up 8 lbs. I eat a ton of food while on a cycle. I realize I would gain weight without the gear if I ate like this.

how long have you been taking it again?
10-13-2003, 08:49 PM
twosocks40

I'm really glad I'm not the only one! HOLY SHIT does this stuff hurt. I am running enanthate and EQ. The EQ is pain free but the enanthate hurts for like 5 days and gets swollen and everything. Hopefully the batch is sterile and this is just a reaction we are all having because of some other reason.

-B
10-13-2003, 09:05 PM
depdaddy

this batch hurts like a mo fo..but so does the cyp..well overdosed should be in the 280 range...im starting to get use to the pain..hurt fro a while when i first got from this batch but ive adjusted nicely..pain only for a day or two..not to bad at all in the glutes...my wife is a nurse and gives great shots
10-13-2003, 09:18 PM
ross3814

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Originally Posted by twosocks40

I'm really glad I'm not the only one! HOLY SHIT does this stuff hurt. I am running enanthate and EQ. The EQ is pain free but the enanthate hurts for like 5 days and gets swollen and everything. Hopefully the batch is sterile and this is just a reaction we are all having because of some other reason.

-B

ok thats good to know, pheew yea 5 days is about right. i gotta say though that although i cant really walk after the 3rd day of the last shot, it dosent hurt as bad as the others, i think my body is getting used to it.
10-14-2003, 06:25 AM
NCBB

I have done 5 shots with 1cc EQ and 1.5 cc test e
I am going to try the glutes next. Depdaddy can your wife give me a shot :) I can't reach my glutes and my wife won't help.
I do legs Wed and then I will do my next shot. I can't miss another leg day.
As for the gear (all pain aside) I feel great, my lifts go up daily and with all the food I am eating, I am looking leaner/bigger by the day.
I will suffer through the soreness because I think it may be worth it.
10-14-2003, 07:31 AM
Tuggy

I've been using the test E 250, Deca 250 and Prop 100. Only in the quads does it seem to be a real pain. Trouble lifting my legs and everything. The Test E and Deca also don't seem to be the culprits with me, just the prop. Glutes have almost no pain at all.
10-14-2003, 04:54 PM
Ntpadude

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCBB

I have done 3 other brands of test and EQ. I have stuck it in a nerve and had my share of sore injections.
This is different.... way different. I limp when I walk and can't work my legs for 5 days after a Quad shot.
I am guessing that those that have not felt this from SL gear must not have this batch. I am hope it is overdosed and just really good. I will continue on it for a few weeks and see.
Except for my leg soreness.... I feel great and look like I am growing daily. I am up 8 lbs. I eat a ton of food while on a cycle. I realize I would gain weight without the gear if I ate like this.

I've only put in glute shots... my neighbor who is helping give shots refuses to inject oil based products anywhere else because his medical experience is, in quads, etc the pain is going to be 20 times worst then in glute...
10-14-2003, 10:56 PM
depdaddy

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Originally Posted by Ntpadude

I've only put in glute shots... my neighbor who is helping give shots refuses to inject oil based products anywhere else because his medical experience is, in quads, etc the pain is going to be 20 times worst then in glute...

damn now he tells us
10-14-2003, 10:58 PM
J-Bud

I think thats just what happens with prop, the pain that is.
10-16-2003, 02:46 PM
NCBB

After 3 weeks I finally got to work my legs. I did my last quad shot on Friday and the soreness was gone by Wed. Wed night after I did my leg workout, I did a glute shot. My first one after 100s of quad shots over the years. I have very little fat in my gluts but at the top there is a fatty place. I stuck it there. It was the easiest place I ever felt the pin go in. My problem was holding the pin steady whild I pushed 2.5 ccs in. Today that area is pretty sore but no muscle was involved, so no limp. I am hooked.
As long as I don't bump or touch my a*s I am OK

Just passing that along since so many of us were having a problem with this batch from SL

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