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[[JoE]]

hi, i just purchased some Deca QV 300, and i was wondering if anyone could help me with some general information, what size needles?, how long is 1 cycle?, what else should i take while on it? how much do i take a week? Have any of you taken it, and how were your results?

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-joe

[[JoE]]

hmm.. sorry, i dont get very much pc time and i dont know anyone that has taken them, just needed some quick answers

[TheSevnthWarrior]

Joe, you're gonna have to do some research Brother, or you're gonna get Flamed out for askin' what can be found searching. There is a Gold Mine of knowledge behind that search button...I'm just lettin' ya know for next time.

A cycle is? Whatever, Eight weeks, 16, 24, 52??? It's basically based on Skill/Goals/experience, some guys haven't been "off" in years.
If I were you howevewr I would go 10 weeks Max.

Pin Size? Up to you, I use 22's.

What to run with it?
Well if this is your first cycle, and it sounds like it may be I wouldn't run anything "With it" I would run some Test only, and not "it."
But if you are gonna run "it" you need to run Test with it.

How much?
Now, just to make this simple, I would put them together a couple times per week.
Depending on your weight/Diet, maybe 250mg Test, 1cc, & 150mg Deca 1/2cc, twice per week, or Every 4th Day.

Have I taken it?
I don't run cycles without it, results are very good, and my joints love me.
Good Luck!
TSW

[TheSevnthWarrior]

^ In the same pin BTW Joe. ^^^^
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[[JoE]]

Ty very much TSW

[TheSevnthWarrior]

Yw

[peaker]

where are you from mate?

[toolman]

Joe:

THis is why you have to research. Deca Dick (Cant get it up on deca), Gyno (progesteron created tits), PCT, Anti-e's, Diet, etc. The list goes on. Unless you are familiar with all these terms and what they do and how to combat or treat them, you should in no way stick yourself bro. Welcome to the learning process and be patient!!!

Good luck!

[TheSevnthWarrior]

Joe:

THis is why you have to research. Deca Dick (Cant get it up on deca), Gyno (progesteron created tits), PCT, Anti-e's, Diet, etc. The list goes on. Unless you are familiar with all these terms and what they do and how to combat or treat them, you should in no way stick yourself bro. Welcome to the learning process and be patient!!!

Good luck!

True..Well, some of it.
I run fairly large doses of Deca, for long durations, and I have never "really" had "Deca Dick"...it's been so unsensetive that I fricken' fall over from exhaution before I can get off, and even some hard starts needing some good foreplay, but that's about it.
And not all Gyno is Progesterone induced, in fact it's a lower precentile.
But the part about needing to know the whole game before playing is very important.
Problem is, they're gonna do it 99 times out of 100, so, as I used to tell 'em, "Learn more about what you think you wanna do, and I'll help you out"...but hell I heard that too, and I intelligently said, "Uh, yeah, OK...thanks"....in one ear and out the other.
It works, I can get some, so I'm goin' for it, was my outlook, so now I just give 'em the best advice I can, and hope they wise up before it's too late.
Better that they get it half right, and learn the other half the hard way. Cuz if you refuse to tell 'em, they'll wing it and get it ALL Wrong, and have to learn it ALL the hard way.

[asymmetrical1]

True..Well, some of it.
I run fairly large doses of Deca , for long durations, and I have never "really" had "Deca Dick"...it's been so unsensetive that I fricken' fall over from exhaution before I can get off, and even some hard starts needing some good foreplay, but that's about it.
And not all Gyno is Progesterone induced, in fact it's a lower precentile.
But the part about needing to know the whole game before playing is very important.
Problem is, they're gonna do it 99 times out of 100, so, as I used to tell 'em, "Learn more about what you think you wanna do, and I'll help you out"...but hell I heard that too, and I intelligently said, "Uh, yeah, OK...thanks"....in one ear and out the other.
It works, I can get some, so I'm goin' for it, was my outlook, so now I just give 'em the best advice I can, and hope they wise up before it's too late.
Better that they get it half right, and learn the other half the hard way. Cuz if you refuse to tell 'em, they'll wing it and get it ALL Wrong, and have to learn it ALL the hard way.

The longer the cycle, the better right tsw?? 52 52 52

[TheSevnthWarrior]

The longer the cycle, the better right tsw?? 52 52 52

That's right Brother!
And hey, News Flash:
If you never come off, you don't have to know a dang thing about PCT!!!

[TheSevnthWarrior]

I'm in the very first stage of my Back-to-back-to-back 52 weekers!!

[asymmetrical1]

That's right Brother!
And hey, News Flash:
If you never come off, you don't have to know a dang thing about PCT!!!

That's what i'm talkin about. Save money by not buying clomid

[toolman]

That's right Brother!
And hey, News Flash:
If you never come off, you don't have to know a dang thing about PCT!!!

Lol...yeah...who needs naturally produced test anyway.

[TheSevnthWarrior]

Just think of ALL the Juice you can get if we'd just stop buying all that frivilous stuff!

[asymmetrical1]

Just think of ALL the Juice you can get if we'd just stop buying all that frivilous stuff!

lmao

[Jackman]

your realy going 52 weeks? what u doing

[asymmetrical1]

your realy going 52 weeks? what u doing

no jackman, we are just kidding...i run long cycles but not entire year

[TheSevnthWarrior]

no jackman, we are just kidding...i run long cycles but not entire year

Close though!
Due to a few cool things I learned, and havin' my buddy chicken out on using his tren and giving it to me, (he made it, but now he's scared to do it) I just restructured my cycle, which will now go 18 weeks, 40 days heavy PCT...then Bam! Another 26 weeks!
Come on! Everybody on the Bus!

[asymmetrical1]

Close though!
Due to a few cool things I learned, and havin' my buddy chicken out on using his tren and giving it to me, (he made it, but now he's scared to do it) I just restructured my cycle, which will now go 18 weeks, 40 days heavy PCT...then Bam! Another 26 weeks!
Come on! Everybody on the Bus!

im on week 17 and expecting tren soon, then pct for a month/2,then back on

[Bartleby]

im on week 17 and expecting tren soon, then pct for a month/2,then back on

with the longer cycles do you keep more gains?? also hows the recovery??
just curious cause ive only gone as much as 10 wks and ppl seem to be leaning toward leaning toward longer cycles, me being one that is looking into it......

[asymmetrical1]

with the longer cycles do you keep more gains?? also hows the recovery??
just curious cause ive only gone as much as 10 wks and ppl seem to be leaning toward leaning toward longer cycles, me being one that is looking into it......

I tend to keep more gains by running 2 long cycles/year....but that may not be true for others. I don't like rollercoater(up down up down) by running many short cycles.

[TheSevnthWarrior]

I tend to keep more gains by running 2 long cycles/year....but that may not be true for others. I don't like rollercoater(up down up down) by running many short cycles.

Definitely.
I can't justify it doing little cycles, to much work, to little pay-off!

[asymmetrical1]

what does your PCT look like

100mg clomid/28 days
1000 iu hcg /5 days 2 days off
500 iu hcg /5days
10mg nolv/28 days

[Bartleby]

I tend to keep more gains by running 2 long cycles/year....but that may not be true for others. I don't like rollercoater(up down up down) by running many short cycles.

cool thanks asym and TSW...very interesting and I will continue looking into longer cycles..seems like it may be a good idea and see how i react to it..also just quick how do you guys find recovery, does it all go well with proper PCT and hcg ...

[Bartleby]

cool thanks asym and TSW...very interesting and I will continue looking into longer cycles..seems like it may be a good idea and see how i react to it..also just quick how do you guys find recovery, does it all go well with proper PCT and hcg...

lol...you posted what I asked right after I posted...looks good...thanks agian

[TheSevnthWarrior]

what does your PCT look like

My next PCT will be as follows:
HCG 500 iu ED for 3 weeks, starting 1 week BEFORE my last Prop/Tren shot.
Clomid 300 mg on day 1.
Clomid 150 mg day 2-7
Clomid 100 mg day 8-28
Clomid 50 mg day 29-35
Nolva 30mg ED week 1
20mg ED weeks 3-6
Clen /ECA 2 on, 2 off
I also run HCG at intervals during my cycle, and Nolva 10mg ED

[TheSevnthWarrior]

wow...what does the HCG cost you g?

It varies...

Anywhere from $3-$25 per 1000 IU.
Yeah, it varies THAT much!
I've gotten 5000 IU Amps for $15 (less in the old days)
and I've seen it online for $129 for 3 X 5000 IU's !!
PLUS SHIPPING! (So Beware)

[asymmetrical1]

It varies...

Anywhere from $3-$25 per 1000 IU.
Yeah, it varies THAT much!
I've gotten 5000 IU Amps for $15 (less in the old days)
and I've seen it online for $129 for 3 X 5000 IU's !!
PLUS SHIPPING! (So Beware)

yeah, of all the AAS i have aquired, hcg is the one i most likely will get prison raped for

[TheSevnthWarrior]

yeah, of all the AAS i have aquired, hcg is the one i most likely will get prison raped for

Oooh, they'd like your strong self in there!
Come here baby!

Whitey, believe it or not it wasn't all that cheap there, I got 3 X 5000 IU packs for $30....OK, but not worth goin' down there for IMO.

[asymmetrical1]

Oooh, they'd like your strong self in there!
Come here baby!

Whitey, believe it or not it wasn't all that cheap there, I got 3 X 5000 IU packs for $30....OK, but not worth goin' down there for IMO.

lmao....