Help me!!

[Money Boss Hustla]

Here's the scoop...my last cycle sucked ass! ICN lot 0020...garbage. Did dbol and got gyno symptoms...no real gains b/c I had to quit it. Did clomid therapy and my libido is still lost. I feel gross, have no energy, and am blue.

I'm going to the doctor tomorrow to try and get some androgel and/or patches. My test base was 13 nmol/dl before my cycle so I'm sure it's very low now. Any suggestions for getting the libido going again? Any ideas for convincing my doc? What type of topical patches or gels exist. I think I would prefer a patch over the gel.

Am I barking up the wrong tree?

[BUYLONGTERM]

How close are you with your Dr.? I just started my HRT thearpy yesterday with my dr. and yes, I had to sit him down and convince him to put me on. My level were very low. He told me that he didn't like the patches. So after bribing him, I now am legal, and getting injections for free!!!! He isn't even charging me a co-pay.

[Money Boss Hustla]

Lucky guy.

Hopefully I can convince him.

[WiLLpOwEr]

Good luck

Let us know how it went.

[956Vette]

Are you just worrying about libido, or getting it up...or what?

[LORDBLiTZ]

How much clomid did you run for PCT?

[JohnnyB]

Bro if the ICN's were no good and you did pct because of the d-bol. You need to be straight with your Dr because there's more going on then a lost libido.

Can you convert nmol/dl to ng/dl or give the range that a normal person would fall in.

JohnnyB

[BUYLONGTERM]

Yeah, you have to be straight, but remember once you do, he won't want to put you back on TEST, he will want you to try and come back with either meds or naturally. Thats what my dir. said yesterday. He said give it two more months and I bet your levels will rise. Thats when I told him about my clomid thearpy, and it's been over 4 months. But again, I have known my levels were always low, even as a kid.

Best of luck, let us know.

BLT

[JohnnyB]

Yeah, you have to be straight, but remember once you do, he won't want to put you back on TEST, he will want you to try and come back with either meds or naturally. Thats what my dir. said yesterday. He said give it two more months and I bet your levels will rise. Thats when I told him about my clomid thearpy, and it's been over 4 months. But again, I have known my levels were always low, even as a kid.

Best of luck, let us know.

BLT

I think at this point, getting back as much test as you can would be the best way to go. Hey Bro how old are you?

JohnnyB

[Money Boss Hustla]

30 years old.

I ran the normal clomid with Ndex 10mg and Adex .25mg.

I guess it's more than just a heater and have a high libido...I need my energy back...my well being.

[symatech]

I hear ya bro. Loosing your sense of well-being is terrible.

How long has it been since you finished your pct?

[JohnnyB]

Bro you shouldn't run arimidex or femara with pct, they can lower the effect of the clomid and nolva. Try running pct for another week or 2.

JohnnyB

[halifaxsteve]

you can try HCG , with clomid and nolva

i would try that before i go HRT

[Money Boss Hustla]

What dosage would you suggest for Clomid? NDex?

50mg Clomid ED for 14 days and 10mg NDex ED (will adjust clomid as needed).

[TheMudMan]

For the 2 weeks like JohnnyB suggested I would go with 20mg Nolva through the 14 days and Clomid 100mg 7 days then 50mg the last 7 days. JMO

I hope things get better for you MBH it sucks to feel like that.

[Money Boss Hustla]

What about taking a few dbol ED? Or should that only be used as a bridge from one cycle to another?

[Money Boss Hustla]

Bump.