cycle advise

[JBeaner]

hey, im looking for some advice on a cycle that can help me put on some size but not bloat me that much if possible..............im 21, 5'9 182 lbs, about 8 percent body fat ....ive done some winny only cycles in the past and have seen moderate results, but not much, i train hard, and diet good for the most part, i wanna try and put on about 10-15 lbs, any advice for a good cycle would be appreaciated

[Nixter]

hey, im looking for some advice on a cycle that can help me put on some size but not bloat me that much if possible..............im 21, 5'9 182 lbs, about 8 percent body fat ....ive done some winny only cycles in the past and have seen moderate results, but not much, i train hard, and diet good for the most part, i wanna try and put on about 10-15 lbs, any advice for a good cycle would be appreaciated

test/Eq/Winny would be good for some lean gains.

Search the forum for dosages and such, you'll learn a lot at the same time.

Nixter.

[asymmetrical1]

hey, im looking for some advice on a cycle that can help me put on some size but not bloat me that much if possible..............im 21, 5'9 182 lbs, about 8 percent body fat ....ive done some winny only cycles in the past and have seen moderate results, but not much, i train hard, and diet good for the most part, i wanna try and put on about 10-15 lbs, any advice for a good cycle would be appreaciated

You need to research a prospective cycle and let the vets disect it. Sounds like you want to avoid a bulk cycle and go for a cutting/lean mass cycle.
1-6 40mg/ed var
1-10 75mg/ed test prop
1-10 300mg/week primo
6-10 50mg/ed win
theese 4 compounds are what I use to shape post bulk cycle. when no primo available i toss in fina

[50%Natural]

Or maybe just test only run with an antiestrogen the whole way. If all is in order, you can easily gain 10-15 lbs. If running nolva or fermera alongside then you won't see water gains. Cheap and effective. Not dissing asym1's post but those compounds will run you a hell of a lot more than two bottles of test enanthate250 when run for 10 weeks at 500mg and some liquid nolva or fermera. Just something to keep in mind.

[asymmetrical1]

Or maybe just test only run with an antiestrogen the whole way. If all is in order, you can easily gain 10-15 lbs. If running nolva or fermera alongside then you won't see water gains. Cheap and effective. Not dissing asym1's post but those compounds will run you a hell of a lot more than two bottles of test enanthate250 when run for 10 weeks at 500mg and some liquid nolva or fermera. Just something to keep in mind.

true 50, that would be cheaper. Sounds like his training and diet is in order and he has ran cycles before. The difference in that cycle, and a test e cycle are tremendous.

[50%Natural]

I am aware. But I spoke mearly in the way of novice use as he had said he had run winny only before. Running test only as compared to winny only would also prove tremendous. He could do the test only and then your proposed cycle. Good advice from both parties I feel. Agree with me asym1?

[asymmetrical1]

I am aware. But I spoke mearly in the way of novice use as he had said he had run winny only before. Running test only as compared to winny only would also prove tremendous. He could do the test only and then your proposed cycle. Good advice from both parties I feel. Agree with me asym1?

totally agree with you bro

[JBeaner]

im thinking about running test with winny before and seeing how that goes before i get too complicated, how much and how long would u reccomned with test and winny

[TheMudMan]

Why not run a test/fina cycle? You will see better results then with winny IMO.

[MBaraso]

Why not run a test/fina cycle? You will see better results then with winny IMO.

I agree. But test prop/fina/winny is also a kick ass cycle. Lots of strenght and gains are keepable if your on track post cycle.

[JBeaner]

if i run a test/fina cycle how much/ how long and what would i need for a post cycle?

[D3m3nt3d]

if i run a test/fina cycle how much/ how long and what would i need for a post cycle?

This is where your research comes in bro...research dosages, lengths etc..of each compound, lay out your planned cylce, then us AR bro's will critique it for ya...good luck