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    My Next Step? Next Cycle?

    Hey guys,

    I am ending my cycle this coming week and trying to decide on where to go next. Since I was on a bulk cycle (Test Ent/Deca /Dbol ) I am going to continue my bulk diet through the next few months. I am happy with my progress from this cycle and think that I may want to do one more bulk cycle this year and then run maintenaince cycles (hardness/cutting) throught the rest of my life or whenever I decide to stop. I plan to get small 4-5lbs gains from these cycles.

    So can I do another bulk cycle say in January? Any recommendations on what to include in the cycle. Of course the base would be Test (not sure what kind) and maybe some EQ.

    Checkout my diary to see my progress...Flame away and give me ideas.

    http://www.anabolicreview.com/vbulle...5&page=1&pp=40


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    Hey,

    Also, would like thoughs on if I should just do a cut cycle

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    Is that you in the avatar? plus how tall are you?

    If you want to consider another bulk cycle take a look at my sig and replace the winstrol for Tren . Tren is awesome, made me hard and cut some bf% (not much).

    If your going to do test, try Test-400. you can read threads on how people praise these results. Your next cycle try it longer, my last cycle I gained almost all my gains from weeks 8-12. Hope this helps as a suggestion.

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    Yeah that is me in the avater...why you ask?

    Anyway. I agree about the gains late in the cycle...i have seen most of mine in just the past few weeks. Seems like it took awhile to get goin.

    I was thinking about a16 week cycle, base with the Test and EQ.

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    Play with this one a bit:

    1-4 dbol 30mg/ed
    1-10 Test Enan 500mg/wk
    1-13 EQ 600 mg/wk
    11-16 prop 100mg/ed
    11-16 winny 50mg/ed
    11-16 tren 75mg/ed

    With this cycle you will add some good quality LBM and tail it cutting right into spring.

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    i like the one diesel gave you...that would be great to add at least 15 pounds, but youll really harden out in the end with the tren , prop, and winny...yeah i love that, i think ill write it down somewhere...do that cycle and bulk a little more, then go on lower dosed maintenance cycle of fina/prop or prop/winny to keep that solid hard look year around...

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    or you could try some suspension...i dont have any experience with it, but from the research ive done it some awesome shit...very little water retention at all...do a search on suspension, if you havent already...i think that might be up your alley

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    Diesal...thanks for the cycle idea...sounds like a solid idea that I might just go with. SHould I through Clen in there post cycle or during the cycle?

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    use the clen in your post cycle...you wont need it during with the tre and winny

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    Bump...any other thoughts

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    The reason I asked was b/c you have a good base to work off of, and IMO you have good genetics, and a low dose cycle you may want to consider.

    While I do like Diesel's cycle planned out, If it were me, I would tweak it a bit:

    1-4 dbol 30mg/ed
    1-10 Test Enan 300mg/wk
    1-15 EQ 300 mg/wk
    11-18 prop 100mg/eod
    11-18 winny 50mg/eod
    9-18 tren 100mg/eod

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    Hey,

    OK, I agree with the basic outline of this cycle. So what do you other guys think...higher dose like Diesel says or lower dose like Custom says???

    Also, when you guys think I should start? January too soon?

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    I am going to stick by my doseage choices here.

    Your last cycle you ran 500mg/wk on Test E.....why lower the doseage on the next run? You will only be disappointed bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel
    I am going to stick by my doseage choices here.

    Your last cycle you ran 500mg/wk on Test E.....why lower the doseage on the next run? You will only be disappointed bro.

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    I'm not trying to play devil's advocate here with a MOD, but here's food for thought.

    1) His previous cycle could have only been 10 weeks, compared to his new one 18 weeks.

    2) If you increase the dosage on this cycle, whats the dosage going to be like on the next one.

    3) If you originally go w/ a lower dosage on this long cycle (which his body hasn't experienced yet), it will make his next larger cycle more effective?


    Just trying to get another view point, not bickering...

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    Diesel, that is a bad ass cycle. Custom your's is good too but Diesel outlined it first so I got to give him props. Bri, that looks like what you want. I personally, would go with Diesel's but I have more cycle experience. Good advice Diesel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50%Natural
    Custom your's is good too but Diesel outlined it first so I got to give him props. Good advice Diesel.

    Agreed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by custom fit
    I'm not trying to play devil's advocate here with a MOD, but here's food for thought.

    1) His previous cycle could have only been 10 weeks, compared to his new one 18 weeks.

    2) If you increase the dosage on this cycle, whats the dosage going to be like on the next one.

    3) If you originally go w/ a lower dosage on this long cycle (which his body hasn't experienced yet), it will make his next larger cycle more effective?


    Just trying to get another view point, not bickering...
    No worries bro. Never be afraid to voice your opinion on this board. (Providing it stays within the rules) Just because I am a Mod does not mean I know it ALL.

    I agree with your thoughts but let me counter them with some of my own.

    1) His last cycle included 10 weeks of Test Enanthate at 500mg/wk and 10 weeks of Deca at 400mg/wk. This cycle, I am proposing Test Enanthate at the SAME doseage for 10 weeks. If he drops from 500 in his last cycle to 300 in this cycle, he is not going to be happy. I have proposed 600mg/ek of EQ for 13 weeks. EQ gets better results the longer you run it. Due to the fact that he ran Deca at 400, I would settle for 400mg/wk. However, I still suggest the 600 due to his current size. (It is a personal judgement call IMO)

    2) I agree. Doseage goes up with each cycle. That is why I am proposing he does not drop his weekly Test dose from one cycle to the next.

    3) I agree, if he were running the Enathate and EQ throughout. However, I have proposed it almost like two seperate cycles back to back. Consider it like when someone closes a cycle out with Winny. Running it right into pct. He is basically doing the same thing only with three short e's.

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    Hey guys....thanks for the debate. Diesel's comments make the most sense with me and I really like the cycle. I will bulk me in the beggining and then cut me as spring/summer approaches....exactly what I want.

    I think I will go ahead and order my gear now, so I have it for January. I am starting to get worried with all of attention roids are getting in the news....Im afraid its gonna be alot harder to get soon.

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    Hey guys...one more thing.

    Any recommendations on what kind (brand/labs) gear I get for each of the following:

    Test Ent
    EQ
    Prop
    Winny (think I wanna try the tabs)
    Tren

    Let me know.

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    RT, SL whatever you can get

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    What can you get? Choose the best from that list.

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    1-15 Test Enan 500mg/wk
    1-15 EQ 500 mg/wk
    11-18 75mg Tren ED
    1-4 50mg Prop ED, 16-18 50mg Prop ED

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    Well that is what I am asking...what is the best???

    I don't want to play with crap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiggerBri2002
    Hey guys...one more thing.

    Any recommendations on what kind (brand/labs) gear I get for each of the following:

    Test Ent
    EQ
    Prop
    Winny (think I wanna try the tabs)
    Tren

    Let me know.
    He is asking for opinions on which brands of gear is best!!!

    I will give you my personal opinion:

    Test: Omnadren
    EQ: QV
    Prop: QV
    Dbol : Russian
    Winny:Chinese lab katonjeng ( good price/ good results)
    Tren: Fina (homemade)

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