Thread: 1st Cycle Decided
10-22-2003, 03:48 PM #1
1st Cycle Decided
Alright guys--after a lot of help i have finally made a decision on my first cylce:
1-4 Dbol 35mg ed
1-10 Test ethanate 500mg wk (250 Mon/Thurs)
36 Pills of Clomid (300/100/50)
40 Pills of Nolvadex (20 pct and 20 just in case)
I haven't gotten the gear yet and I dont plan on starting the cycle until late March 2004. I just want to cover all the bases and be totally prepared. I only have a couple of questions to finish things up.
1) I have seen some say pct starts 2 wks after test eth. others say 3 wks. off. Does anybody know for sure?
2) Say that it is two weeks for example, and I start 2 wks after my last injection--My last injection will be a thursday--Does that mean I start pct. on a thursday or do I start the monday of the 2 week? (kinda confusing-hope you know what I mean)
3) I am a hardgainer/ectomorph and it has always been a rule for people my size to workout NO MORE than 3 days a week to prevent overtraining--right now i run a Mon/Wed/Fri split. I have also seen many differing opinions on this. Should I stick with 3 day a week or should I do more while on AS? (please keep in mind the hardgainer issue--i'm not a super genetic muscle building freak like some other blessed members--i dont want to overtrain but i dont want one drop of AS to go to waste)
4) ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS WELCOME.
Thanks for the help guys
10-22-2003, 04:07 PM #2
IMO start pct therapy two weeks from the monday after your last test injection....
and an answer to #3--
run a 4 day split, with one day dedicated to legs--like this:
mon- chest, back
friday- bis and tris
sun-off or do some cardio, but i like to do back here insted of with chest...
10-22-2003, 07:24 PM #3
thanks for the help coldstone
10-22-2003, 08:15 PM #4Originally Posted by ectogainer
chest ,bis ,abbs
back tris ,traps
leggs,,shouldrs, this is what worked for me .
10-22-2003, 08:23 PM #5Originally Posted by ectogainer
10-22-2003, 08:30 PM #6Senior Member
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Thats a solid 1st cycle start PCT 2 wks after last enathate shot (yes on a thrus.). It would be a good idea to run some liquidex .5/ed throughout the cycle and PCT to avoid estrogen related sides.
10-22-2003, 09:19 PM #7
thanks for the advice guys it all sounds good---yeah Big N i got the diet in check definately most important part of gaining--i am taking in about 4000 clean calories a day and i up my diet 200 calories every 10 lbs gained----Any more suggs. on my cycle workout--More on AS or the same?
10-22-2003, 09:59 PM #8Originally Posted by ectogainer
10-23-2003, 08:56 AM #9
One slight suggestion. Since this is your first cycle and you will be on test for 70 days and then add another 14 while it is leaving your system for a total of 84 days before pct. If you have sensitivity in your nipples you are going to wish you had much more nolva on hand, enough to run a minimum of 10mg daily and preferably I would think you would want enough for 20mg per day incase you really have some symptoms and want to run 40mg a day for a few days. Nolva is cheap, buy another 50 pills if you can and go for a bottle of liquidex to. I was very glad to have enough when I found out on my first cycle that I was getting the first signs of gyno, it was a life saver, or at least a chest saver.
10-23-2003, 10:34 AM #10
thanks scottp999---good advice--the nolva's are 20mgs a piece but youre right i should definately get more--i didnt work the math out--i guess i shouldnt cut any corners
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