question reguarding winny for ending a cycle..

**mvp_status** · 11-04-2003, 10:28 PM

ok guys im gonna make it short and sweet..i ended my sust cycle 2 weeks ago today...started winny a week ago..now question..my 3rd week of last shot of sust will be next tuesday..now...can i run winny for 3 more weeks even though that would elapse my pct by 2 weeks?????????and start pct at end of week 4 on winny???

**KeyMastur** · 11-04-2003, 10:50 PM

whoa....back up a minute.

you ended your Sus cycle 2 weeks ago today.

you started winny 1 week ago.

outline it like this :

1-whatever sus
6-whatever winny
12-14 pct

understand ??

it's just that the way you've got things worded confuses the hell out of me. you ended your sus cycle, yet your 3rd week of last shot will be next tuesday. are you still on the sus ?? or are you saying that 3 weeks from this next tuesday will be when you've ended your sus.

anyhow, you should have started your winny near the end of your sus, not after you completely stopped taking it.

i would save the winny for another time.

**mvp_status** · 11-04-2003, 10:54 PM

yeah,,next tuesday willl be 3 weeks since my last shot of sust,,keep in mind,,i dont wanna get super riiped ,,just want to harden up a bit,,and i tought maybe 4 weeks od winny would be good.what u think??

***asymmetrical1*** · 11-04-2003, 11:01 PM

you did'nt help keymastur with that. you should have planned the winnie in with the sus. pct needs to be run when the test ends, 3 weeks like you said.
1-10 sus
9-13 win
is this what you did?

**KeyMastur** · 11-04-2003, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by asymmetrical1

you did'nt help keymastur with that. you should have planned the winnie in with the sus. pct needs to be run when the test ends, 3 weeks like you said.
1-10 sus
9-13 win
is this what you did?

no, this is what he's done / wants to do :

1-10 sus
12 - 14 winny
15-16 PCT

***asymmetrical1*** · 11-04-2003, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by KeyMastur

no, this is what he's done / wants to do :

1-10 sus
12 - 14 winny
15-16 PCT

oic..

***asymmetrical1*** · 11-04-2003, 11:10 PM

toss the win

**KeyMastur** · 11-04-2003, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by asymmetrical1

toss the win

my thought exactly. lose the winny. save it for next time where you can plan ahead.

**mvp_status** · 11-05-2003, 02:59 PM

ok guys,,thanks,,i will end winny....appreciate the help..can i add proviron with my clomid ??if so how much..25mg?

**BUYLONGTERM** · 11-05-2003, 03:17 PM

Yeah, Winstrol should be run for 6 weeks, no longer. save it for the next time, and you will be happy!!

FYI: I'd also suggest taking Glucosamine while on Winny. Winstrol dries you up big time! One of the lessons I learned the hard way.

**TheMudMan** · 11-05-2003, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by mvp_status

ok guys,,thanks,,i will end winny....appreciate the help..can i add proviron with my clomid ??if so how much..25mg?

No don't use proviron durring PCT could hamper recovery of HPTA functions

**mvp_status** · 11-05-2003, 03:29 PM

OK,thanks again

**mvp_status** · 11-05-2003, 05:35 PM

well,,is there anything i can take that wont effect my pct..such as primo>>or eq,,just to harden up ???

**TheMudMan** · 11-05-2003, 08:42 PM

Run clen and ECA........ but I wouldn't drop my cals durring PCT though.... you want to perserve as much muscle as you can. I'd wait a few weeks after PCT and then start cutting and hitting cardio.

Next time jsut have your cycle planned out a little better....... You know this isn't your last one

**mvp_status** · 11-06-2003, 03:18 PM

Yep U Are Correct

**shadow123** · 11-06-2003, 03:27 PM

i was told to run clomid/nolva post cycle together, with clen , clen for 2 weeks an 2-3 tabs per day max this stops an-catabolic. also run creatine after stopping comid/nolva clen.... then after creatine still keep eating loads

**TheMudMan** · 11-06-2003, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by shadow123

i was told to run clomid/nolva post cycle together, with clen , clen for 2 weeks an 2-3 tabs per day max this stops an-catabolic. also run creatine after stopping comid/nolva clen.... then after creatine still keep eating loads

For clen to be anti-catabolic you would need large doses........... I run Clen/ECA durring PCT to help with energy levels. Keeping your calories high will keep you from going catabolic. I would run creatine durring PCT or even durring my cycle. JMO.............. yes you are right..... try to keep your calories high a few weeks after PCT.