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    BigDog_329x is offline New Member
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    Calve cramp??? I think???

    Anyone ever just been walking and the calve feels like it pulled off the bone??? I was walking on the tread yesterday at a normal pace when wow! calve pull/cramp caused me to stop and it keeps hurting... every step it hurts, but i can squat down with no pain...

    weird!!!

    did calves a few days before but they weren't sore from the workout wheb=n this happened...
    HELP? QUICK???

    bd

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    my calves usually dont get really sore until 3 days after i work them......on day 2 i feel the pull...on day 3 i walk on my toes.....lactic acid can be a bitch....

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    No flame but on the basis of the information you have provided how can anyone help or even attempt to help cure you

    Are you on a cycle right now, drinking plenty of water, taking any supplements, had past problems etc?

    Peace

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    im shooting in the dark here but......

    are you doing any diuretics....your calcium or potassium may be low....

    i have some quinine sulfate around somewhere..it will stop leg cramps...come get it....i'll leave it on the porch for you (haha)

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    quinine sulfate
    is a cure for cramps?? I get cramp alot right now in my abs its fuckin horrible I do get it in my calves alot but slowed down with increased water intake, in the abs is another scarey story

    Jason

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    hi jason.....quinine sulfate 325mg per day has been used in the medical community for leg cramps for as long as i can remember.....seems to work well for most people.....if you get cramps alot, you may need to check your electrolytes or cut back on the clenbuterol use(it causes cramps also).....

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    thanks for that i asked many people but no one seemed to know that, usually add more water and try to intake potassium in whatever way, i beleive excess ephedrine or ephedra causes stomach cramps not sure if that relates to internally or as in muscle cos when i abs fuck me sometimes i get in some pain I am on a cutting diet and cycle right now have never had the pains in the abs before

    JAson

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    cramps

    hey guys thanks!!! Iron, i'm on sust/deca /cyto... I've recently upped cu=yto to 75mcgs over the last few days... but even before that my joints have been really dry and they hurt like a mutha fu&&^%... shoulders, patella, low back, now only one calve...

    water is way up there, i'll say 2 and maybe even 3 gallons a day, really!!! 32 oz upon waking and 32 at work(personal trainer)...

    i never stop drinking and pissing... when i go to bed i down 32 more oz.a again, and i keep some by the bed for when i wake up... and protien drink sometime during the night...

    the last few nights i tried melatonin to sleep but it keeps me up...

    i did by some cal/mag mineral drink and swigged down a few srvs tonight and will continue to saturate the system... my guess was the minerals going down too low with cardio...

    i laid off working out today, but legs tomorrow... wish me luck...

    BD

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    jason....you need a rx to get quinine sulfate...never seen it on the "market"........i e-mailed a GI specialist i work with and he ask if you ever tried viburnum opulus (also know as cramp bark at gnc).....cramp bark is an herb the relaxes smooth muscles and is used alot for pregnant women who are having cramps.......worth a try.....at least it is from the health food store, so it will not hurt you.....hope this helps......

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    with the talk of cramps....guess what.....i just got a cramp in my left calf....ouch............lets not talk about impotence, i seem the be catching what we talk about (LOL).....

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    I believe I have the answer to your question. I experienced problems with severe cramps for years and only soplved the problem a couple of weeks ago by asking a lot of people a lot of questions. The problem occurs becuse of dehydration, so make sure you are taking in a lot of water during your workout. Even if you are, it is possible that your body is not retaining the water. This is caused from an electrolite imbalance created by over training (something I don't view as bad).

    So, in addition to drinking lots of water, supplement with potassium, calcium, magnesium, and salt (the salt you probably already have in your diet). I was suplementing all the above except for the calcium and magnesium. I got pills from GNC that have both and take 750-1000 mg/day. They went away for me at 1,000 mgs, so I started reducing my intake, at 750 they began to come back. If I forget to take it even for 1 day, the cramps return, but when I do they go away. Its a direct cause effect relationship.

    Someone also menthioned quinine (found in tonic water). Doctors have trated cramps with that for years. I tried it and it had no effect for me, but the medical community must know something, right?

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    yep, the problem is more than likely arising because of the cytomel (t3). Increase water intake, supplement with potassium, calcium and a good strong multi vitamin mineral. And I havent heard of quinine sulfate but it may be something to look in to.

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    allright

    Guy's thanks for the repies!!! It was cramps most likely from the cytomel ... however, sust has dried me up in the past and had terrible cramps...

    legs today were no fun... 315 hacks 5 sets of 6...

    my back hurts now because of the compensation of the calve...

    i just took one for the team... the calve feels better now, so that is a plus...

    does anyone know another way of hydrating the body other that water??? I'm seroiusly drinking way too much...



    BD

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