cycle help and ?s

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11-11-2003, 04:13 PM
heavydchamp

cycle help and ?s

hey, i've never taken any gear before and im getting ready for my first cycle. My main concern is strenght, but i want to maintain as much of it as possible. I'm 25, 6'2", 260 lb. Heres what im considering.
250mg test e/week 1-10
200mg eq/week 1-10
dbol 15mg/day 1-4

I may not run the dbol or the eq and go 500mg test e/week 1-10.

I was wondering, if i run either of these cycles and run clomid 300/100/50 how much wieght can i expect to gain, and how much can i expect to lose after discontinuing the cycle.
11-11-2003, 04:18 PM
D3m3nt3d

you should be able to reach around 15-20lbs or so if diet and training is in order. With proper PCT you should be able to maintain most of it. Being 260 I would probably bump the test to 500mg anyway.
11-11-2003, 04:20 PM
heavydchamp

more chance of sides tho right, what if i just do the 500 mg strait, with no eq, will i be able to keep my gains then?
11-11-2003, 04:20 PM
heavydchamp

actually, now that you say i can keep most my gains, i think ill drop the eq, go 500 mg test, and do the dbol with it
11-11-2003, 04:22 PM
TheMudMan

You need to extend the EQ and test, and raise all of the dosages.

1 - 4 D-bol 40mg ED
1 - 13 Enan 500mg
1 - 12 EQ 500mg
1 - 15 Nolva 10mg ED
Start PCT 3 weeks after last injection of EQ

Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
Day 2 - 11 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
Day 12 - 21 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva

If everything is in check..... diet, rest, training, and PCT you could keep 20 - 25lbs but it's way to hard to guess.
11-11-2003, 04:24 PM
heavydchamp

all of that looks good mudman, but its a little more than i was looking to get into, could i extend it to 12 weeks with just the test, and run the nolva strait through
11-11-2003, 04:24 PM
Nailer

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

You need to extend the EQ and test, and raise all of the dosages.

1 - 4 D-bol 40mg ED
1 - 13 Enan 500mg
1 - 12 EQ 500mg
1 - 15 Nolva 10mg ED
Start PCT 3 weeks after last injection of EQ

Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
Day 2 - 11 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
Day 12 - 21 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva

If everything is in check..... diet, rest, training, and PCT you could keep 20 - 25lbs but it's way to hard to guess.

Agreed.
11-11-2003, 04:39 PM
heavydchamp

what about just running the test e 500 mg a week and running the nolva strait thru. without the dbol and eq. or runing the test e with just the dbol.
11-11-2003, 07:18 PM
TheMudMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by heavydchamp

what about just running the test e 500 mg a week and running the nolva strait thru. without the dbol and eq. or runing the test e with just the dbol.

You could run just the Enan and Nolva for a cycle........ That would be a very good cycle............ or you can jump start the cycle with d-bol and run the enan but I would still keep the nolva in the cycle no matter what you run.
11-11-2003, 08:12 PM
heavydchamp

great, i just foudn a source for the dbol, but im gonna go light with that. Im gonna do either 375mg, or 500 mg of the test e for either 10-12 weeks, and im gonna do the dbol at 30mg for 4 weeks, and the nolva strait threw. I kno thats less than you guys said, but im kinda afraid to do any more.
11-11-2003, 08:18 PM
50%Natural

That looks okay heavyd
11-11-2003, 08:19 PM
TheMudMan

That sounds good bro............. Why not make it easier on yourself and run 400mg of the enan it will be easier to measuer out. The d-bol sounds ok but because of your weight you may not see much from it.