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    heavydchamp is offline Junior Member
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    cycle help and ?s

    hey, i've never taken any gear before and im getting ready for my first cycle. My main concern is strenght, but i want to maintain as much of it as possible. I'm 25, 6'2", 260 lb. Heres what im considering.
    250mg test e/week 1-10
    200mg eq/week 1-10
    dbol 15mg/day 1-4

    I may not run the dbol or the eq and go 500mg test e/week 1-10.

    I was wondering, if i run either of these cycles and run clomid 300/100/50 how much wieght can i expect to gain, and how much can i expect to lose after discontinuing the cycle.

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    you should be able to reach around 15-20lbs or so if diet and training is in order. With proper PCT you should be able to maintain most of it. Being 260 I would probably bump the test to 500mg anyway.

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    more chance of sides tho right, what if i just do the 500 mg strait, with no eq, will i be able to keep my gains then?

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    actually, now that you say i can keep most my gains, i think ill drop the eq, go 500 mg test, and do the dbol with it

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    You need to extend the EQ and test, and raise all of the dosages.

    1 - 4 D-bol 40mg ED
    1 - 13 Enan 500mg
    1 - 12 EQ 500mg
    1 - 15 Nolva 10mg ED
    Start PCT 3 weeks after last injection of EQ

    Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
    Day 2 - 11 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
    Day 12 - 21 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva

    If everything is in check..... diet, rest, training, and PCT you could keep 20 - 25lbs but it's way to hard to guess.

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    all of that looks good mudman, but its a little more than i was looking to get into, could i extend it to 12 weeks with just the test, and run the nolva strait through

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    You need to extend the EQ and test, and raise all of the dosages.

    1 - 4 D-bol 40mg ED
    1 - 13 Enan 500mg
    1 - 12 EQ 500mg
    1 - 15 Nolva 10mg ED
    Start PCT 3 weeks after last injection of EQ

    Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
    Day 2 - 11 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
    Day 12 - 21 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva

    If everything is in check..... diet, rest, training, and PCT you could keep 20 - 25lbs but it's way to hard to guess.
    Agreed.

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    what about just running the test e 500 mg a week and running the nolva strait thru. without the dbol and eq. or runing the test e with just the dbol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavydchamp
    what about just running the test e 500 mg a week and running the nolva strait thru. without the dbol and eq. or runing the test e with just the dbol.
    You could run just the Enan and Nolva for a cycle........ That would be a very good cycle............ or you can jump start the cycle with d-bol and run the enan but I would still keep the nolva in the cycle no matter what you run.

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    great, i just foudn a source for the dbol , but im gonna go light with that. Im gonna do either 375mg, or 500 mg of the test e for either 10-12 weeks, and im gonna do the dbol at 30mg for 4 weeks, and the nolva strait threw. I kno thats less than you guys said, but im kinda afraid to do any more.

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    That looks okay heavyd

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    That sounds good bro............. Why not make it easier on yourself and run 400mg of the enan it will be easier to measuer out. The d-bol sounds ok but because of your weight you may not see much from it.

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