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    check it out

    did lots of junk in the past but this will be my 3rd real cycleI'm 23 221 6'2 14-16% bdy fat I want to hit 240 I only do injectable. I also want to do it for 8 weeks and 2 weeks of recovery. What should i take for maxium gains. The first cycle was the best of course gained a lot i used sus dbol 2nd I used 500 sus 300 deca a week. My gains were solid but just did'nt pack on the weight i wanted. I was thinking of a ethanate 500, deca 300 with clen at the end do you think I can gain 20 with that or should i take somthing else. I don't want to take sus or oma I want to take somthing new and nothing to harsh on the old organs. They seen a lot of alchol in there days even though im 23.

    I won't be planing to drink during my cycle


    thanks for your time and your positive feed back
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    I need some good advice please brothers educate me lol..

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    maybe look into a test/fina/winny cycle?

    It helps if you can give us a proposed cycle so we can guide you in the right direction.

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    Just My .02 I Just Got Done With Test E And Eq. The Results Were Pretty Impressive!! I Gained About 25lbs And After Recovery Keept About 16. D

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    Run a Enan / EQ cycle........... If you eat right you could pack on 20lbs easily. The combo that tmeoe suggested is a very good combo but since you want the less harsh of cycles this would be what I would run.

    1 - 13 Enan 500mg
    1 - 12 EQ 500mg
    1 - 15 Nolva 10mg ED

    Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection:

    Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
    Day 2 - 11 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
    Day 12 - 21 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva

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    Thanks a lot guys I never thought of doing eq with enan sounds good should i shoot twice a week or 3

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    I Took 2 A Week 200 On Mon And 200 On Thurs. I Used Qv 200. Some Outher Labs Are Diff Doses D

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    500mg split among E3D injections on both AS's would be best but 2 times per week also is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    500mg split among E3D injections on both AS's would be best but 2 times per week also is good.
    With Test Enanthate and EQ there is not need to shoot more than twice a life bc of the long lasting ester

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightWeightBaby
    With Test Enanthate and EQ there is not need to shoot more than twice a life bc of the long lasting ester
    It's true they have a longer half-life but E3D injections would keep blood levels the most constant. I also did say that he could do the injections 2 times per week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    It's true they have a longer half-life but E3D injections would keep blood levels the most constant. I also did say that he could do the injections 2 times per week.
    Not hating on you man, its all love

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightWeightBaby
    Not hating on you man, its all love
    I know bro just wanted to clarify things................... it's all about keeping levels constant

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    Thanks I think less jabs the better my ass starts feeling like a pin cushion I'm going for 2

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    I agree with a en/cyp with eq. why not do what you hit on your first cycle if you liked those gains so much?

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    Hey Mudman can i trow some deca in for my joints and if so how much and how long if im doing 500 eth 1-13and 500 of eq 1-12 like you suggested

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisato
    Hey Mudman can i trow some deca in for my joints and if so how much and how long if im doing 500 eth 1-13and 500 of eq 1-12 like you suggested
    if you are suggesting running deca and EQ in same cycle, no I would not throw some deca in to you cycle. either or.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nailer
    if you are suggesting running deca and EQ in same cycle, no you cannot throw some deca in to you cycle. either or.
    Well actually people have ran deca and Eq together, i would not do it only bc I really do not care for the extra water retention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightWeightBaby
    Well actually people have ran deca and Eq together, i would not do it only bc I really do not care for the extra water retention.
    correction .. would not

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