maybe it's just me....

first off let me say i am not picking on any one individual person here, this is a general observation. i come to the board alot, most of the time i just read posts and do not respond to any, unless i have an opinion based on actual experience. but i read so many replies and sometimes it pisses me off. so many guys giving text book answers to questions. i feel that if you did not actually use a product then you shouldn't give an opinion. every drug works differently for every person, give me your experience from it and thats great, but i don't want to hear an explanation right out of a medical journal. anyone can read that shit. i want real life experiences. what happened to you when you did this, how many mgs were you using. i could give a good shit what happened to your friends ,uncles, cousins, boyfriend.by the time that story reached you it was fabricated ten times over. i especially hate when someone says." stay away from deca, you'll get deca dick and it will shut you down so hard" if this happened to you then please tell your story, if it didn't then shut the fuck up. i always try to do a search first, and then ask a question, because there is always someone with a different answer. but i want real life answers. not what you read from a magazine. i am venting alittle, it was a shity few days and its getting to me today. sorry if i offend anyone, but it is fustrating to read some of these replies.i would rather see a reply start like ths " i never did this but i heard this could happen...." don't try to come off like some fucking scholar, when you actually don't know shit. and believe me on this one. you could read all you want, if you have never done it, then you still do not know shit.reading will give you a basic understanding of steroids, but until you sink that first shot in your ass, you will never understand it. :rolleyes:

I made a similar post.. I know ur pain.. soemtimes I don't feel like reading threads because i see certain ppl have posted on them.. oh well... pick it apart and u usualyl find some good stuff..

I think there has already been a thread on this. What's with all the hostility?

point taken, and I def. agree, there was a thread like this recently though.

i agree and can tell you that i give many of my opinions of effects of things based on my personal experience or the experience of close friends....when it comes to laying out cycles i use one's i have done or have seen laid out by the vets on this board and others...i do agree that a lot of shit has effects different from person to person, but when so many experienced users tell me something, i can relay that message with confidence and know that it's sound advice.

I think a MOD should rewrite this post and put it in the edcucational forum and in the part of steriod questions with the posts at the top that always stay there.....exsuse my piss poor english...

Well, to be honest, I think there are definitely more personal exp. advice than advice out of a text book. But, at times, it's also nice to get some text book advice as well. I agree people should NOT be responding to a thread unless they have knowledge on the DRUG. But, it's also up to the individual to make an intelligent decision while doing research.

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Originally Posted by bigsd67

i agree and can tell you that i give many of my opinions of effects of things based on my personal experience or the experience of close friends....when it comes to laying out cycles i use one's i have done or have seen laid out by the vets on this board and others...i do agree that a lot of shit has effects different from person to person, but when so many experienced users tell me something, i can relay that message with confidence and know that it's sound advice.

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Good point!

I disagree. Doctors havent taken every medication that they prescribe, but they still know what it is suspose to do.

It is the resposibility of the person taking to advice to relize that deca might not shut you down, but it probobly will. I know several people who have never taken a shot, but they took time to learn and get their shit straight, and should be taken seriously.

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Originally Posted by nevaenuf

I hate to be different but I disagree. Doctors havent taken every medication that they prescribe, but they still know what it is suspose to do. I think it is the resposibility of the person taking to advice to relize that deca might not shut you down, but it probobly will. I know several people who have never taken a shot, but they took time to learn and get their shit straight, and should be taken seriously.

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Maybe yes, maybe no. To me experience is king. You can read about drugs and there effects and even hear stories of people on drugs. But until you actually taken the drug itself, and see what it does to YOU, then you don't have the actual experience.

Every person responds diffrently to "any" substance.

Damn, we almost made it two straight weeks without a post like this!

This point has been beat down, picked up, and beat down again repeatedly. There is something similar to it in the Educational Threads. It is up to the end user to make up his/her mind from the info at hand, and take it as what it is: an opinion of that anonymous person. all the research in the world is useless if you can't decipher the bullshit out of it.

-moto

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Originally Posted by nevaenuf

I disagree. Doctors havent taken every medication that they prescribe, but they still know what it is suspose to do.

It is the resposibility of the person taking to advice to relize that deca might not shut you down, but it probobly will. I know several people who have never taken a shot, but they took time to learn and get their shit straight, and should be taken seriously.

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This isn't a flame or anything, but I don't think a doctor's knowledge of most prescription meds and the average board members knowledge of steroids and all their effects is really a fair comparison. Not to knock anyone on the boards, because I have learned quite alot here.

Reading people's posts are only a "guide" that should give a idea only...u must research whatever drug u are going to use for yourself...do u honestly think I would listen to joe shmoe's opinions on a drug and take it without my own research .....not likely...

I'm tired of these rants................ It's up to you as the individual to make certain you know or at least have an idea what your are doing to yourself. If things aren't clear ask a question but at least you will know when you get a responce if the information is correct or not.

any correct info on a drug someone is using may be helpful to them. no nead to repeat things in threads but giving useful knowledge should never be discouraged.

i guess i wasn't too clear with my point. i understand all knowledge is useful to a degree. as far as a doctors knowledge goes, that is bullshit. my doctor tells me straight out when ever i talk to him about steroids that he does not have any knowledge on the subject. it is not an excuse not to answer me because the guy talks to me about everything. stocks, real estate, pussy. everything, but it is not his field of expertise. so being a doctor does not automatically make any particuliar person better educated then anyone else. my point is simply, yes offer your advice but say this is what i heard.. some guys preach it like they have been doing it for ten years, and then three months later they put up a post saying " ready for my first cycle " i am like what the fuck !!!! this guy has been giving answers to every freakin post, and arguing his points. so basically what i am ranting about is just say.. i heard this could happen or it is possible to expect this ..." don't give an answer like you've been there when you haven't. does anyone understand this ?? like i said i am not flaming anyone in particuliar, but not everyone waits for 20 responses. they other day someone was complaing about pimples, and the first response was, get some accutane. that is the absolute last fucking resort. but if no one else would of replied then this poor idiot may have tried to get this shit and use it. i am willing to bet the person who gave the answer did not ever try it himself.

Thats why the responsibility comes down to the person looking for advice.

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Originally Posted by BigMike J

I think there has already been a thread on this. What's with all the hostility?

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I think alot of guy´s are starting pct :D

Alot of question are given "textbook answers" cause they come up every freakin day! If guy´s used the search button more it wouldnt be like this.

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Originally Posted by legend

... but i don't want to hear an explanation right out of a medical journal. anyone can read that shit.

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Actually for what it's worth a medical journal will most likely cite a controlled study that involved several people, which is a lot more valuable than just one person's experience.

I'll take all the citations people want to throw out myself. They're a lot more valuable than just one person's experience.

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Originally Posted by johnsomebody

Actually for what it's worth a medical journal will most likely cite a controlled study that involved several people, which is a lot more valuable than just one person's experience.

I'll take all the citations people want to throw out myself. They're a lot more valuable than just one person's experience.

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I agree JS, I like to look at it from every single angle I can find