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    2nd cycle. Please critique

    I would like to run one more mass cycle before I start cutting during the summer. Here is my first cycle that i'm on as of now:

    100mg/EOD test prop 1-6wk
    500mg/WK test Enan 1-12
    10mg/ED nolva
    .25mg liqiudex/ED
    (going to run clomid along with nolva post cycle)

    Here is what I was planning for my 2nd cycle:

    50mg/day DBol 1-4wk
    500mg/wk test enan or cyp 1-12wk
    500mg/wk EQ 1-11wk

    Clomid will be ran post cycle along with nolva and liquidex on hand

    I also need to know whether I should run test enan or cyp? Which do you guys think is better and more effecient in mass and strength.

    THANKS IN ADVANCE

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    Throw fina in there....at least 100mgs/eod

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    enth. or cyp. i think cyp. is a little stronger. but i like enthanate better, cause they sell it in 50ml bottles.....WOOOOOOOOO YEAAAAAAAA

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    For a 2nd cycle, I think what you have planned there is fine. Not much difference at all between Enan and Cyp. I guess it's possible to see a little bit more bloat with Cyp, because of molecular weight (thanks Pheedno); but it wouldn't be much.

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    didn't you just start. 3 months on 3 months off. You second would hit you right into the middle of july.

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    I guess it would hit right in july. I guess that didn't plan out right but that's OK anyway. There is a annual bench press contest in sept, so it all works out good. Thanks for pointing that out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monster.
    Throw fina in there....at least 100mgs/eod
    Do you guys think I should throw in fina?

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    i am running fina for my second cycle, so i guess i can't tell you not to. you see decent strength gains. Do they test for this bench competetion? If not (i know its cheating), you should plan for your cycle to be ran and the fina to be workingreal well the day of the comp, but maybe not. good luck.

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    Sust and Ephedrine

    I was looking at some additions to my PCT. I am doing some liq-clomid and nolv as suggested but i was looking into some anti-catabolic compounds. I have minimal access to clen but obvious acess to ephedrine is fine. My question is when and how much i should start taking ephedrine and if it may affect the BP too much due to all the other drugs. THnaks

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    I'd save the fina and d-bol for another cycle.

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    If your looking to do one more bulker........ Drop the EQ and do a Enan/Fina cycle.............. EQ is a great AS but if you want to bulk I think you will see better results with fina. JMO TEST is test so what ever you can get use ENAN or CYP are going to give you the same results.

    1 - 4 D-bol 40mg ED
    1 - 12 Enan 500mg/wk
    5 - 12 Fina 75mg ED
    1 - 14 Nolva 10mg ED
    1 - 12 L-dex .25

    Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

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    I like the way that looks Mudman.

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    Finaplex or Finaject? I guess one is just an injectable right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier_4446
    Finaplex or Finaject? I guess one is just an injectable right?
    Just buy the fina pellets and conversion kit and convert it. Easy and cheap...... I wouldn't pay for Tren .

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    You can convert the pellets to liquid. Fina dissolives in water right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier_4446
    You can convert the pellets to liquid. Fina dissolives in water right?
    The kits are all setup with everything you need for the conversion......... No it's a "magic solution".................. oil

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    If your looking to do one more bulker........ Drop the EQ and do a Enan/Fina cycle.............. EQ is a great AS but if you want to bulk I think you will see better results with fina. JMO TEST is test so what ever you can get use ENAN or CYP are going to give you the same results.

    1 - 4 D-bol 40mg ED
    1 - 12 Enan 500mg/wk
    5 - 12 Fina 75mg ED
    1 - 14 Nolva 10mg ED
    1 - 12 L-dex .25

    Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection
    That's a nice cycle, I'd adjust the fina to go 2 weeks passed the enan.

    JohnnyB

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyB
    That's a nice cycle, I'd adjust the fina to go 2 weeks passed the enan.

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    Thanks JohnnyB.............. the only reason I don't like running fina past the test is because of it can make recovery harder...... but yes fina can be ran up to PCT week.

    What are your ideas on that? Or do i worry too much

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    I agree Mud looks like a good cycle and yes you do worry to much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG TEXAN
    I agree Mud looks like a good cycle and yes you do worry to much.

    Thanks bro...................... I'm a worrier all right...... that's how come I can eat so much

    But I think the way I have it will help recovery and allow him to keep more gains durring PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    Thanks JohnnyB.............. the only reason I don't like running fina past the test is because of it can make recovery harder...... but yes fina can be ran up to PCT week.

    What are your ideas on that? Or do i worry too much
    I agree with you, you could run pct longer which I thinks a good idea woith deca and fina.

    Is it worry or wisdom

    JohnnyB

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