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    Which cycle, I have to picked out

    I started my first cycle a few weeks back, but had to end it because I didnt start it correctly. (gear didnt come in at the right time) Im ready now and here is what Ive came up with. Im 22yrs old, lifting for 6 yrs, Im 200 lbs, bf 6-8%

    Cyp-500mg ew x10wks
    Prop-200mg eod x 3wks
    EQ-400mg ew x10wks

    or

    Cyp-500mg ew x10wks
    Dbol -40mg ed x4wks
    EQ-400mg ew x10wks

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    Since this is really your first cycle I would do the 2nd one but extend the EQ and Cyp to 12 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    Since this is really your first cycle I would do the 2nd one but extend the EQ and Cyp to 12 weeks
    Ok, second question, which Dbol do u recommend? Here are my options-
    Loffler Dbol tabs 25mg/100tabs in bottle
    Loffler Dbol tabs 25mg/1k tabs

    Denkall Dbol tabs 10mg/100tabs in bottle
    Denkall Dbol tabs 10mg/300tabs in bottle

    Thai Pink Dbols 5mg/1k (only prob with these is that I dont need that many)

    and...for ani e's-50 tabs of Nolva and 50 tabs of Clomid-enough?

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    And why would you pick the second one mud????

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    IMO, i would run test only for a first cycle with a possible dbol jumpstart, but like i said, that JMO.

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    iv heard the denkall are the shit and the loffler may be under dosed
    and thats from someone running them right now, but thats only what i here

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    Quote Originally Posted by m1514
    Ok, second question, which Dbol do u recommend? Here are my options-
    Loffler Dbol tabs 25mg/100tabs in bottle
    Loffler Dbol tabs 25mg/1k tabs

    Denkall Dbol tabs 10mg/100tabs in bottle
    Denkall Dbol tabs 10mg/300tabs in bottle

    Thai Pink Dbols 5mg/1k (only prob with these is that I dont need that many)

    and...for ani e's-50 tabs of Nolva and 50 tabs of Clomid-enough?
    Get the pink thais and save them for another cycle or split them with a friend, the thais are great.

    I would also go with the second cycle you chose, start out at 35mg ed it may be enough(no use causing more harm on your liver)

    I think you can run it for ten weeks since it is your first cycle you do not really have to run for 12 weeks.

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    Go with the Thai's....I know from experance that the loeffler are way under dosed....
    50 50mg clomid will be fine...You will be able to run that for 3 weeks, 300/100/50
    50 nolva 10 or 20mg tabs....is also pretty good amount to have on hand.
    L-dex or armidex would be nice to have also, it would be a real good idae to help with the bloat from the d-ball, and is also a real good anti e so you don't have to worry about useing those nolva.
    Other wise it looks good, good cycle...you will be happy, just make sure you eat right and don't forget about good rest. Good Luck Bro!

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    my denkall were underdosed. had to take 60mg per day to see any effects from it.

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    ENraged, mud prolly said that because of the frequent injections of prop. most people are just getting used to the idea of injecting twice a week. ed or eod injects might just be too much for a first timer. I cant speak for the mud man, but if i had to guess that is what i would say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by testaprim
    ENraged, mud prolly said that because of the frequent injections of prop. most people are just getting used to the idea of injecting twice a week. ed or eod injects might just be too much for a first timer. I cant speak for the mud man, but if i had to guess that is what i would say.
    yeah, its diferent for everyone, but i just started my first cycle with eq and prop(100mg eod) i don't find the injections to be painful at all and it even makes me want to shoot more than eod, i guess i just get a kick out out self mutalation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENraged
    And why would you pick the second one mud????
    Yes test is a great for first cycles............ but there's nothing wrong with using EQ/Test for a first either. EQ is very mild AS that gives great lean muscle gain along with test.

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    ok I just love the ease of getting prop and fina. Something about being your own chemist is just rewarding as hell

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