Ripped Physique

**Steven7** · 11-23-2003, 06:14 PM

I'm 24 years old. I've been working out for about 4 years. In the past I've used deca , sust, d/bol, testex, virormone in different combinations. I broke my wrist in august and have only recently started training again. The thing is, I've lost a bit of size but I'm actually happier with how I look. I always looked Quite wattery and rounded. I'm about to start this 5 week course;

mon+ thurs 72mg of Tren + 200mg of Deca
tue, wed+ fri 150mg of winstrol

I'll be taking dianabol every day too, but I'm not sure what dose yet. Also I'll be taking Nolvadex every day, T4 every day and clenbuterol at 2 weeks on 2 weeks off with ephedrine in the off weeks.
Will this tone me by the end of the five weeks? I have about 12% body fat at the moment and I'll be perfecting my diet too. can anyone help??

**motoxxxguy** · 11-23-2003, 06:20 PM

Don't do that cycle. First of all, winny needs to be administered everyday, and tren acetate eod at the least. Deca at that dose might not do much, but if anything it will cause some water retention. Deca will also be rather ineffective for 5 weeks. What about PCT? You need some more planning and knowledge here, bro.

-moto

**Rhino58** · 11-23-2003, 06:21 PM

No laddy, if you are trying to cut dbol should not be in your diet at all.

**Steven7** · 11-23-2003, 06:26 PM

I thought by taking the Nolvadex I would be o.k. with the d/bol. I have done a few different cycles in the past, but I've usually just taken what my guy gives me without question. I'm glad to have joined AR to gaet advice from people that are not trying to get money out of my pocket. I'm pretty desperate to get ripped by christmas time though.

**Steven7** · 11-23-2003, 07:10 PM

Can anyone suggest a cycle to get me completely ripped? I'm desperate and I only have a short time left.

**ENraged** · 11-23-2003, 07:15 PM

1 - 4 dbol 35mg ED
1 - 12 prop 75 ED
3 - 10 fina 75 ED
7 - 12 winny 50mg ED
1 - 12 l-dex .25
1 - 12 Nolva 10mg ED

**ENraged** · 11-23-2003, 07:16 PM

that will add mass and the ldex will help with the bloat. I see no problems with starting with some dbol you have 8 weeks to get rid of the water.

**Steven7** · 11-23-2003, 07:18 PM

I'm not sure of the doses you are suggesting here.

**ENraged** · 11-23-2003, 07:20 PM

add them up its nothing extreme
75 x7=
50x7 =

**Steven7** · 11-23-2003, 07:23 PM

O.k. thanks. I'll sure give it a go. I'm a bit unsure what ldex is though.

**ENraged** · 11-23-2003, 07:29 PM

I would run a search on ldex it will explain everything in detail. That is the cycle i am saving up for and hope to run in jan or feb

**murph** · 11-23-2003, 07:33 PM

no drugs will just get you ripped up..... you need to have your diet in check along with a solid cardio program,.... but the drugs alone will do nothing for you if your not getting everything in place at the same time....good luck ...
Murph

**ENraged** · 11-23-2003, 07:35 PM

also a point i took for granted. wouldnt waste the money if ya havent got everything else in order

**Steven7** · 11-23-2003, 07:37 PM

I realise that my diet has to be really good. I have all the juice talked about here except ldex. I'll need to see if I can handle every day shots though. I imagine there's a few risks involved in that.

**Steven7** · 11-23-2003, 09:30 PM

I can't get ldex. will that make a big difference? I'll only be using nolva.

**Dude-Man** · 11-23-2003, 10:33 PM

you don't need liquidex aka arimidex . It'll just keep the bloat off. If you're going to be running test proprionate you need it even less, as there is less bloat associated with it.
As far as worrying about risks of everyday injections, health wise, injectables are usually better than orals.