11-26-2003, 12:29 AM #1
I've been lifting for three years. I'm 5'10' 190 lbs, 7% bf. I've been doing my research and I think I've got my cycle. I want to take Fina, Deca , and Test Prop. From what I've read, this cycle is one of the best. Can you guys help me out? I need to know how much I need, how much I should take, and how much this will cost me. I want to do this right. I want to get max gains! Thanks.
11-26-2003, 12:34 AM #2
well...my own personal opinion...beautiful choice
i'd go with....
6 weeks - fina 100mgs/eod
8 weeks - test prop. 100mgs/eod
8 weeks - deca 500-600mgs/week
run clomid/ post cycle
eat your ass off, and train heavy as fawk
not sure on the price... depends how lucky you are
good luck bro
ps... had to correct myself
Last edited by monster.; 11-26-2003 at 12:57 AM.
11-26-2003, 12:36 AM #3Originally Posted by JDMSilviaSpecR
1 - 15 Prop 100mg ED
1 - 12 Deca 300mg
1 - 8 Fina 75mg ED
1 - PCT Nolva 10mg ED
3 days after last prop injection start PCT:
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
Day 2 - 11 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
Day 12 - 21 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
11-26-2003, 12:38 AM #4
11-26-2003, 12:39 AM #5Originally Posted by monster.
11-26-2003, 12:42 AM #6
11-26-2003, 01:04 AM #7
I've done my research for the last year. I ask for ****ing help and faggots like you flame. I asked a question either answer it or leave it alone. I was originally going to use Deca \DBol \Sust, but I've found of Fina to be more powerful and less water retentive. I know it's a little more toxic to your kidneys but I should be able to flush out most of it by drinking lots of water.
11-26-2003, 01:05 AM #8
Can someone run me a rough estimate on the total price if I were to run monsters original cycle. I'd really appreciate it. Thanks alot!
11-26-2003, 01:12 AM #9Originally Posted by JDMSilviaSpecR
Do what you want, rub the fina all over your body or take it orally dont come back to me when you smell like **** and have constant diarrhea.
11-26-2003, 01:21 AM #10
Hey bro, I was only pissed about you telling me
"--Sounds like you need alot more research before you start running AS."
I appreciate your help, but not that line. I've maxed out at 425 bench press all natural after lifting for 3 years, peaking out 4 months ago. Thats alot of time at the gym, religiously working out and carefully watching my diet. I've hit my peak and I need as to get me over the top. I've been doing my research for a little over a year now and I've come up with this cycle. I appreciate your help though. Can you run me through some prices?
11-26-2003, 02:34 AM #11
11-26-2003, 03:04 AM #12
I say screw the Deca and run a Testosterone like Cyp or Enanthate .
If it's your first cycle run it at
Weeks 1-4 - 500mg Enanthate
Weeks 6-10 - 250mg Enanthate
Weeks 6-12 - 50mg Fina ED or 100mg Fina EOD
Weeks 6-12 - 50mg Prop ED or 100mg Prop EOD
Here's the explanation why...
By the time you add in the shorter acting esters (Fina/Prop) with your Test Enanthate/Cypionate , your longer actiong ester (the Enanthate/Cypionate) will have fully kicked in. You're also running the shorter esters 2 weeks past your last injection of Enanthate giving a nice smooth transition into PCT.
Why I suggest running the Enanthate between a 500mg for the first three weeks is for a PROPER Frontload. You'd saturate your blood stream enough so that by the time you add in the Fina/Prop, everything will 'kick' in nice. Also, I say you go lower later on becuase you're adding in another Testosterone, Prop.
Say for instance you ran 500mg Enanth with 100mg Prop EOD that's running almost a GRAM of Test a week. Too much for a first cycle.
Anyways, that's just my two cents. I think for your goals, you'd do better with replacing Deca with Test and running the shorter esters at lower dosages and with ED injections.
11-26-2003, 03:07 AM #13
Oh, and price wise? I dunno. You're looking at...including the Sauce, the anti-e's and clomid? Hmm...
That's just a ROUGH estimate.
11-26-2003, 09:28 AM #14Originally Posted by JDMSilviaSpecR
11-26-2003, 01:18 PM #15
I don't think I saw it mentioned above, but fina+deca =elevated progesterone concerns, ie, the breed of gyno that nolva does not ameliorate and/or inhibit. If you do insist on running both together, especially never having assessed your response to either, I'd cover all my bases and make sure you have your bromo.
11-26-2003, 01:29 PM #16
11-26-2003, 11:28 PM #17
So, having heard this, what should I stack with my Fina?
11-26-2003, 11:36 PM #18Originally Posted by JDMSilviaSpecR
11-26-2003, 11:36 PM #19
Also how much would 8 weeks of Fina cost me?
11-26-2003, 11:37 PM #20
11-27-2003, 04:59 PM #21
After all this talk I think I've got my first cycle planned out:
8 weeks - fina 100mgs/eod
8 weeks - test prop 100 mgs/eod
Clomid & Nolva as prescribed - PCT
Tell me what you guys think!
11-27-2003, 05:03 PM #22
just switch to armidex, because fina converts to progesterone... looks good, lol..actually looks great...you will like that cycle man...no doubt
11-27-2003, 05:17 PM #23
11-27-2003, 05:23 PM #24
i think there was a few threads about that, run a search
11-27-2003, 05:27 PM #25
No flame, but based on what I know, it would be better for you just to buy the Fina and not make it at home.
Run Fina/Prop/Winny if you don't feel like running another Test.
It'll make you nice and tight, hard and strong. And you have Prop as your basic Test.
I still say you go with the Fina/Prop/Cyp. Just because it's your first cycle, you'd love it and you'd gain a good amount of power and muscle. Just make sure you maintain the intensity.
11-27-2003, 05:43 PM #26
I've been doing my research and I've read that they don't make injectable Fina. If I'm taking Fina, i'm injecting it, not drinking or absorbing it. Can I buy Fina already in a vile Ronny? And how much would about 2800 mg's of Fina cost me? Thanks for your help
11-27-2003, 05:49 PM #27Originally Posted by JDMSilviaSpecR
11-27-2003, 05:49 PM #28
Yeah, you can buy Fina in a bottle. There's a tonne of different companies who make them too. I've personally used PVL Fina and loved it. By the 5th day I could feel it kick in huge.
Fina varies in price though. I know PVL makes it in 100mg/ml concentration, as opposed to the traditional 75mg/ml. But the price varies and it's a little pricier than Testosterone based on the fact that it binds to receptors 3x better then Testosterone, making it a bang for your buck.
So for 2800mg of Fina, you're roughly looking to spend around $250-$350. That's a lot of Fina though. It's not recommened to go that high. You'd do fine with 2000mg of Fina. Run it 50mg ED or 100mg EOD, you'll end up having enough to last you for 40 days or 7 Weeks.
It's a strong drug and my drug of choice
11-27-2003, 06:24 PM #29
Thanks Ronny, I'll take 2000 mg's that'll be 6 weeks of Fina 8 weeks of Test Prop. I was looking to take 100mg/ml EOD for 6 weeks. Can you PM where I can buy the PVL Fina you bought?
12-05-2003, 09:28 PM #30
If anyone can tell me if I can buy the PVL Fina, or any other legit reliable form of liquid Fina, can you PM or email me with the pics and location? Also, would Mexico (Tijuana) have it? I'd really appreciate some form of help. Thanks!
12-06-2003, 05:11 PM #31Originally Posted by JDMSilviaSpecR
Last edited by Doc M; 12-06-2003 at 05:13 PM.
12-06-2003, 05:23 PM #32Originally Posted by JDMSilviaSpecR
12-06-2003, 05:25 PM #33
and trust me he gave you good advice because i did fina with dmso for 6 weeks and i was afraid to go to the gym because when i would swear i would smell like garlic. And so did my breath its gross! DONT DO IT
12-07-2003, 12:10 AM #34Originally Posted by JDMSilviaSpecR
1-8 fina 60mg ED
1-8 prop 80mg ED
the only thing i woulda changed is up the tren dosage to 75mg ED and >maybe< the prop dosage to 100mg ED, but at 80mg ED, you're getting 560mg of test a week, which is what most people would recommend for a first cycle.
i gotta disagree with the vets on this one. screw buying tren from a dealer. that stuff is expensive as hell. you can make it yourself VERY easily and VERY cheaply. about $110 for 42cc. i'm a steroid neophyte, and i made my own tren very easily. honestly, i can say without hesitation, a 13 year old could make it easily. dissolve pellets in BA, mix with oil, filter into sterile vial, and start injecting...=)
01-09-2004, 07:14 PM #35
2 weeks into Fina, 1 week into test prop, No problems, starting to see agains, only problem is the immense pain from the test prop injections.
01-09-2004, 07:25 PM #36Originally Posted by JDMSilviaSpecR
01-10-2004, 01:57 AM #37
Yeah, the first day i injected into my thigh, i couldnt walk. Took me 3 days till most of the pain subsided. Now i inject into my glutes. Is it normal to temporarily feel flu-liek symptoms for 6-8 hours after injection?
01-10-2004, 03:58 AM #38
01-10-2004, 09:42 AM #39
01-10-2004, 10:03 AM #40
check ur PM
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