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    going to the NFL

    A buddy of mine is a senior at a top D1 football school, and has a good chance of being drafted next year. He is 6'2, 245 lbs. Body fat is a 8.2%. His main goal in a cycle is to cut up, and strength gains. He wouldnt mind putting on a couple of pounds, as long as he gets leaner then he is now. (Substatute the weight in fat with muscle mass). He came to me b/c although i have not used (yet ) he knows that i have a good source.

    I am asking for help because I dont know much about cutting cycles for it is not my goal at this time, so i spend all my time rtesearching bulking info.

    I was thinking sumthing along the lines of winny/test.

    Any help will be greatly apppreciated.

    PS: I thought you should know that this guy is the most dedicated athlete i have met. He livres in the gym, and follows a life style that only helps his cause, never hinders it. It will also be his first cycle ever, so i dont think he needs to high of doses. Testing is also a concideration. He cant start till mid Janurary (Bowl Game), and needs to be clean by late summer. Again, thanks.

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    not all at once bros! lol j\k

    but come..sumone has gotta have a little input

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    I would run....

    Weeks 1-10 Test Prop 75-100mg daily
    Weeks 1-10 40mg Anavar Daily
    Weeks 6-10 Winstrol 50mgED (im not sure about this one i dont know how long it takes to get out of your system)

    But the anavar and Test prop will be out in less than a month.

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    Test alone would be Ok. Test/Eq would be good too. Maybe test/eq/var also.

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    I won't touch this one. To much at risk. He must know some other pro athletes that can help him. I would stay away from any long esters and stick to prop and maybe anavar .

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    anyone know tren acetate detection times? it looks like tren is pretty well suited to his needs, probably along with test prop.
    so he's got a 6 month window.. 3 of that will likely be his cycle.. which gives him 3 months to clear..

    so no gear with detection times longer than 3 months..
    Last edited by chrisAdams; 12-02-2003 at 07:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisAdams
    anyone know tren detection times? it looks like tren is pretty well suited to his needs, probably along with test prop.
    I wouldn't put a first times through the hell of tren but thats just me. i like th results just not the nasty cough.

    Rick does make a valid point about asking a Pro Athlete friend. Or even a college friend. They could tell him how to avoid getting caught too. Most of us do not need to worry about being tested.

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    I 'd go with tren EQ and prop....... take the EQ out if it can't get out of the system b4 dections and use winny instead...

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    I'd say Prop/Var is a good combo for his needs/concerns. His receptors are virginal, so less is more....he will grow like a weed no doubt. The only thing I can think he may not like is the frequent injections, but thats the trade for the quick clearing of the system....

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    Go with
    prop EOD 100 mgs weeks 1 - 10
    eq 500 mgs weeks 1- 10
    and var, weeks 3 - 10 at 40mgs ED...
    I agree, no long acting esters... Also I have a freind that is probally getting drafter he is doing
    test cyp 400 mgs a week, tre, and winny, forgot the exact doses, but he played 1aa, and our season is over, he is just playing in a the 1aa bowl game in FL dec 28, then he is starting.....

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    This is exactly what i thought too...

    If he's at a top D1 school, then trust me there's alot of people around him that know the deal with this ****...

    And I'm sure he must know alot more then he is letting on...

    I'm not buying this one for a second...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rickson
    I won't touch this one. To much at risk. He must know some other pro athletes that can help him. I would stay away from any long esters and stick to prop and maybe anavar.
    Last edited by Jack87; 12-02-2003 at 10:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter North
    Hey i'm a Pro Player..........Professional Fantasy Football Player. MUAHAHA I will take any chance i get to sabotage anything related to Ron and Football. MUAHAHA RON Remember Who's Your Daddy!! Just 2 weeks left!!
    That was actually funny...i'm going to feel bad upsetting you in round 1 now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter North
    Hey i'm a Pro Player..........Professional Fantasy Football Player. MUAHAHA I will take any chance i get to sabotage anything related to Ron and Football. MUAHAHA RON Remember Who's Your Daddy!! Just 2 weeks left!!
    1 week left for you and leave the dancing banana cheer squad alone I sent them to cheer for Big green.

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    go with 8 to 10 wks of prop @100mg eod and winny in wks 6-10 @50mg/day.
    EQ stays in your system too long so stay away if you're getting tested. stay with the fast acting stuff. Virgins do not need tren .
    i would recommend glucosamine and msm for anyone on winny, especially someone who runs alot like football players. joint health is very important for athletes especially ones on winny. it's a cheap precaution that should be taken throughout the cycle. i did it and was very pleased. note that it takes awhile to build up in your system though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrock34
    go with 8 to 10 wks of prop @100mg eod and winny in wks 6-10 @50mg/day.
    EQ stays in your system too long so stay away if you're getting tested. stay with the fast acting stuff. Virgins do not need tren .
    i would recommend glucosamine and msm for anyone on winny, especially someone who runs alot like football players. joint health is very important for athletes especially ones on winny. it's a cheap precaution that should be taken throughout the cycle. i did it and was very pleased. note that it takes awhile to build up in your system though.
    I would go with var over winny.... Tell ur buddy to ask around im sure he has freinds who have sauce......

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