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    fabry is offline Senior Member
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    test/eq first cycle???

    i've read a post in wich you recommend test and eq as first cycle...
    what is the difference between test only and test/eq stack?
    what test in the second case?
    what about dosages?
    what about nolva and clomid in this case?
    tnx

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    You really need to read the actual profiles of these drugs to know/see what they do. For a first cycle though i almost always recommend a test only cycle whether it be enan or cyp(read up on these) for 12 wks.

    Dosages can also be looked up by "searching" for threads about beginner cycles.

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    i've read the differences between the two different kinds, but honestly, can't find out a "personal" difference...
    enan and cyp same dosages?

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    yeah bro they are VERY similar. I personally can't tell the difference...what I run depends on avail and $$. I have used test en more than cyp though. GREAT first cycle. Run anywhere between 250-500mg/wk total broken into 2 shots for 10-12 weeks. You'll love the gains and shouldn't have too many sides.

    Research your anti-e's and PCT! Do lots more research before starting. You'll sleep better at night!

    peace,

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    i've just read another post in wiche people suggest to start easy (250mg w)... or, also, a "frontload" or a stack with dbol 20-30 mg day)
    so, lets forget for now my first question (test/eq stack?) and concentrate on this...
    here's what i now have in my head:
    wk 1-10, 250mg test en/w
    wk 1-4 20/30mg dbol instead of frontload
    what do you think

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    1 - 4 D-Bol 30mg ED
    1 - 10 Sus 500mg a week inject E3D
    1 - 13 Nolva 10mg ED

    Start PCT 3 weeks after last injection
    Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
    Day 2 - 21 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
    Day 22 - 28 20mg Nolva

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    Well, My first cycle I did Test and EQ, both low doses forthe first 8 weeks. I did 250mg of Test. I saw great results, but If I had to do it all over again, I would recommend doing 400mg.

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    E3d

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    1 - 4 D-Bol 30mg ED
    1 - 10 Sus 500mg a week inject E3D
    1 - 13 Nolva 10mg ED

    Start PCT 3 weeks after last injection
    Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
    Day 2 - 21 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
    Day 22 - 28 20mg Nolva

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    what do you mean by e3d? mon-thur-mon-etc
    isn it twice/w?

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    Sust need to be injected E3D. Test enan or Cyp can be injected once a week, but to keep your blood levels consistent, I'd do 2 times a week.

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