M1T over DBOL?

**jonnie5_5** · 12-06-2003, 11:05 PM

Guys-
Ive seen on some message boards about Methyl 1-Test being better than DBOL without the sides? Anyone used M1T to jump start a cycle or have any reviews on M1T?
peace
j5

**nostawk** · 12-07-2003, 12:35 AM

i am currently using it by itself and in ten days i have gained twelve pounds i am not bloated at all and my strength has gone up quite a bit..........also there is a lot of info on m-1-t at anabolicminds

**clockworks** · 12-07-2003, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by nostawk

i am currently using it by itself and in ten days i have gained twelve pounds i am not bloated at all and my strength has gone up quite a bit..........also there is a lot of info on m-1-t at anabolicminds

wow, impressive...now if they made it in injectable form, i might be interested...=)

-- clocky

**jonnie5_5** · 12-07-2003, 09:38 AM

ive heard great things about M1T, something to think about guys....its legal too.

**Pinch** · 12-07-2003, 09:58 AM

about to start m-1-t

i'm using it for 4 weeks before i start my 12 week pre contest dieting... (and i will also use it for first 2 weeks of the 12 week dieting cycle)

so hopefully it can jumpstart my cycle and give me 4 weeks to add some more mass before the intense dieting occurs...

i'll let yall know how it goes

**jonnie5_5** · 12-07-2003, 10:57 AM

thanks pinch and good luck.

**N4cer** · 12-07-2003, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by clockworks

wow, impressive...now if they made it in injectable form, i might be interested...=)

-- clocky

Injectable? Why? It's methylated, so there's no advantage to injection.

I mean, the concept that injectable dbol or winny is better is speculative at best. Never proven to be better.

**Pinch** · 12-07-2003, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by whiteykauai

i hear that methyl test is the most toxic oral? anyone knows other wise, im planning on jumpstarting next cycle, id like to hear some more about methyl test

i would be interested to hear how it compares to winny or dbol

i doubt its harder on the liver than dbol

heard you can take it 6 weeks at 20mg no problem

**N4cer** · 12-07-2003, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by whiteykauai

i hear that methyl test is the most toxic oral? anyone knows other wise, im planning on jumpstarting next cycle, id like to hear some more about methyl test

This is NOT methyl test. It's Methyl-1-Test. You know the Prosteroid called 1-test? This is a methylated form of it. So in actuality, it's not a form of testosterone at all. 1-test is closer to a 5-alpha reduced boldenone . Now it's methylated.

**N4cer** · 12-07-2003, 01:53 PM

If you know MZL (from Italy), ask him. He was up 11lbs in 10 days on it.

Another guy that used some that I had was up 12lbs in the first week!

No, I'm not making this up. I'm simply amazed at the wonderful results.

**Farm boy** · 12-07-2003, 04:28 PM

before you use this product, go to anabolicminds.com. some praise it, some say it give them lower back pain that literally incapacitated them. the ones that suffered the most were the ones trying to take 20mg a day. most are comparing it to tren . after reading some post from guys who were using it, it sounds like it is rough as hell.

**nostawk** · 12-07-2003, 05:09 PM

im takin it and the pumps in my lower back, ass and thighs while working out are quite uncomfortable and in general i feel tightness all over but especially in the lower back

**physio_sport** · 12-07-2003, 05:36 PM

personally i havnt used m1t but i do like methyl 4ad very good with little or no side effects because 4-ad converts to test but the actual methyl 4ad-diol version doesnt convert that much to estrogen or dht so its easy on the hair and acne and gives good effects . personally i wouldnt use anavar again i rather use methyl 4ad. i have heard good things about i thinks its written as 17aa-hydroxy nandrolone does any one now about this.

**Five Seventy** · 12-08-2003, 01:13 PM

Anyone know if methyl 1-test raises estrogen? i hear a typical cycle is 4-6 weeks at 10-20 mg/day. sound right to anyone? also, is it wise to use 6-oxo at the end of the cycle?

**N4cer** · 12-08-2003, 01:44 PM

It's wise to use real PCT at the end of a cycle.

No, it does not aromatize to estrogen, as it's not testosterone -based. But because your HPTA will be suppressed as hell after 4-6 weeks, you should use normal PCT in the form of Nolva if you like the best, and Clomid if you like 2nd best.

**clockworks** · 12-08-2003, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by N4cer

Injectable? Why? It's methylated, so there's no advantage to injection.

I mean, the concept that injectable dbol or winny is better is speculative at best. Never proven to be better.

i don't like ingesting anything cuz i'm scared of liver problems...

-- clocky

**N4cer** · 12-08-2003, 02:38 PM

Injecting dbol and winny doesn't negate the hepatoxicity, bro, although it's a nice dream.

**clockworks** · 12-08-2003, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by N4cer

Injecting dbol and winny doesn't negate the hepatoxicity, bro, although it's a nice dream.

i thought it passes thru the liver >less< times when injecting...?

-- clocky

**Five Seventy** · 12-08-2003, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by N4cer

It's wise to use real PCT at the end of a cycle.

No, it does not aromatize to estrogen, as it's not testosterone-based. But because your HPTA will be suppressed as hell after 4-6 weeks, you should use normal PCT in the form of Nolva if you like the best, and Clomid if you like 2nd best.

what is hpta?

**Dude-Man** · 12-08-2003, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by Five Seventy

what is hpta?

pituitary testicular axis..
your body's regulatory system for testosterone production.

**strongweapon** · 12-09-2003, 12:53 AM

HTPA--hypothalmic pituitary testicular axis

yes it is toxic--to what degree--no one knows

yes it works--the more you take--the more you will grow

makes you tight--may cause back pain--it has in me anyway

and causes headaches--has stifled some of my workouts

cant inject it as it is a form of 1-Test and burns like a mutha

has to pass through the liver just as many times as everything else inyour blood and has to be metabolised there as well--regardless of route of administration

yes you still need to use PCT

screws my stomach up

and if you have to ask whether to use PCT or what the HTPA is you shouldnt be using gear yet