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    bdtr and Ironfist, here's my 46 Weeker

    Well, here is essentially what I have planned for my 46 weeker I plan on starting Nov. 1. The compounds are pretty basic, doses high, and I switch my orals around and take some breaks to let the liver recoup itself a bit. I've timed the compounds so that I lean out towards the Spring/Summer, and that's why the test dose drops off. I'll Run A-dex every so often as I see fit (especially when using the dbol since that's about the only thing that makes my nipples itch), and I've got a whole shitload of Nolv on hand. I might run slin with the first 5 or 6 weeks, and then again week 11-16. It didn't do much for me in the past, but since I'm bulking in the beginning, I might as well try and utilize it for all it's worth.

    Thinking about running some Propecia as well. I've got a thick head of hair even with all the test I have run for the past year, but preventative maintenance is never a bad idea. I'm not running Winny b/c it makes my hair unhealthy, and it's the only compound that seems to thin my hair out. Anyone who has experience with Propecia and who can tell me how to run it, your .02 would be greatly appreciated.

    Any other suggestions on what I might be leaving out, or may have mis-timed, let me know.

    Week:
    1) Denkall Test 400 (1/ed), Deca 300 (900mg/week), Reforvit 25mg/ml (3ml/day)
    2) Test 400 (1/ed), Deca 300 (900mg/week), Reforvit 25mg/ml (3ml/day)
    3) Test 400 (1/ed), Deca 300 (900mg/week), Reforvit 25mg/ml (3ml/day)
    4) Test 400 (1/ed), Deca 300 (900mg/week), Reforvit 25mg/ml (3ml/day)
    5) Test 400 (1/ed), Deca 300 (900mg/week), Reforvit 25mg/ml (3ml/day)
    6) Test 400 (1/ed), Deca 300 (900mg/week), Reforvit 25mg/ml (3ml/day)
    7) Test 400 (1/ed), Deca 300 (900mg/week)
    8) Test 400 (1/ed), Deca 300 (900mg/week)
    9) Test 400 (1/ed), Deca 300 (900mg/week)
    10) Test 400 (1/ed), Deca 300 (900mg/week)
    11) Test 400 (1/ed), Deca 300 (900mg/week), Anadrol (150mg/day)
    12) Test 400 (1/ed), Deca 300 (900mg/week), Anadrol (150mg/day)
    13) Test 400 (1/ed), Deca 300 (900mg/week), Anadrol (150mg/day)
    14) Test 400 (1/ed), Deca 300 (900mg/week), Anadrol (150mg/day)
    15) OFF
    16) HCG 5000iu/e5d
    17) Primotest 250 (1/ed), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week), Suspension (100mg/day)
    18) Primotest 250 (1/ed), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week), Suspension (100mg/day)
    19) Primotest 250 (1/ed), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week)
    20) Primotest 250 (1/ed), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week)
    21) Primotest 250 (1/ed), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week)
    22) Primotest 250 (1/ed), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week), Tren (100mg/day)
    23) Primotest 250 (1/ed), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week), Tren (100mg/day)
    24) Primotest 250 (1/ed), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week), Tren (100mg/day)
    25) Primotest 250 (1/ed), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week), Tren (100mg/day)
    26) Primotest 250 (1/ed), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week), Tren (100mg/day)
    27) Primotest 250 (1/ed), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week), Tren (100mg/day)
    28) Primotest 250 (1/ed), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week)
    29) Primotest 250 (1/ed), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week), Anavar (50mg/day)
    30) Primotest 250 (1/ed), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week), Anavar (50mg/day)
    31) Primotest 250 (1/ed), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week), Anavar (50mg/day)
    32) Primotest 250 (1/ed), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week), Anavar (50mg/day)
    33) Primotest 250 (1/ed), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week), Anavar (50mg/day)
    34) Primotest 250 (1/ed), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week), Anavar (50mg/day)
    35) Propionate (900mg/week), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week)
    36) Propionate (900mg/week), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week)
    37) Propionate (900mg/week), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week)
    38) Propionate (900mg/week), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week)
    39) Propionate (900mg/week), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week)
    40) Propionate (900mg/week), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week), Anavar (50mg/day)
    41) Propionate (900mg/week), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week), Anavar (50mg/day)
    42) Propionate (900mg/week), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week), Anavar (50mg/day)
    43) Propionate (900mg/week), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week), Anavar (50mg/day)
    44) Propionate (900mg/week), Ultragan Eq (800mg/week), Anavar (50mg/day)
    45) Propionate (500mg/week)
    46) Propionate (500mg/week)
    47) HCG/Clomid
    48) HCG/Clomid
    49) Clomid

    So essentially it's:

    Test 400 (1ml/ed) Week 1-14
    Deca 300 (3ml/week) Week 1-14
    Reforvit (3ml/d) Week 1-6
    Anadrol (150mg/d) Week 11-14
    OFF Week 15
    HCG @ 5000iu e5d Week 16 and into Week 17
    Primotest 250 (1ml/ed) Week 17-34
    Ultragan Eq (800mg/week) Week 17-44
    Suspension (100mg/day) Week 17-18
    Tren (100mg/day) Week 22-27
    Anavar (50mg/day) Week 29-34, Week 40-44
    Propionate (900mg/week) 35-44
    Propionate (500mg/week) 45-46
    HCG/Clomid PCT

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    omg.....what's this cycle costing you bro? Looks good by the way, maybe one of these days I may have to be at that level to grow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3m3nt3d
    hoooollllyyyyyyyeeeee shit!!!
    Talk about a test rabbit
    go on with ya bad self. Dont suppose you could spare a few bucks for us poo people who cant afford a 3 part cycle lol
    I want reports and updates on this one. daily even
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    Since our cycles are almost identical, we should start at the same time. I like it alot, nothing i'd change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdtr
    Since our cycles are almost identical, we should start at the same time. I like it alot, nothing i'd change.
    you guys and also skii - should start the same time and have a forum dedicated to your progress and remarks - I bet there will be a lot of people interested in following your progress - I know I will.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdtr
    Since our cycles are almost identical, we should start at the same time. I like it alot, nothing i'd change.

    Sounds good to me. I want to wait till Nov. 1 b/c that's 6 weeks off for me and I want to get some blood work done a few weeks before that. Can you wait that long, or have you already pre-loaded a years worth of syringes?

    Major, it'll only be about $4000 or so. I think that's pretty reasonable for a years worth of shit.

    ENraged, I was actually going to ask you for a loan. WTF? Help a brother out!

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    shit, i wasn't planning on starting till nov dec anyway since i still got 6 more weeks on the 24 week one im on then im just coasting with 500 test till the big one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdtr
    shit, i wasn't planning on starting till nov dec anyway since i still got 6 more weeks on the 24 week one im on then im just coasting with 500 test till the big one.
    we have a match........

    I think you should seriously consider that....

    It would be a great educational benefit for everyone on this board.

    Maybe Jason can set up a forum for "supercycles" - where you guys post your experiences.

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    Hey Bro, thats one hell of a cycle...looks good...best of luck and remember to keep us updated on ur progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Butcher
    Sounds good to me. I want to wait till Nov. 1 b/c that's 6 weeks off for me and I want to get some blood work done a few weeks before that. Can you wait that long, or have you already pre-loaded a years worth of syringes?

    Major, it'll only be about $4000 or so. I think that's pretty reasonable for a years worth of shit.

    ENraged, I was actually going to ask you for a loan. WTF? Help a brother out!
    shiet i was looking at 50 amps of nile for $500 saying ouch that is going to hurt!! Actually thinking about selling a kidney on the black market
    Damn you got all that for 4000 see that is what happens the old timers of the club all ways find the good deals and us new jacks always end up getting screwed for a few years. ahh well i think you and bdtr should compete and then see if you can syck ironfist into it as well those 2 are both machines.. Ironfist is the man go iron!! hey doesnt bdtr wrestle or something as well?

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    The doses are huge(not considering your experience or size), but I do like that your never running more than three compounds at a time.

    Looks good and I concur that updates on this should be kept up with. Especially looking forward to seeing blood work.

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    Am I reading this right, that weeks 1-14 you are doing 2.8 grams of test per week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hybrid
    Am I reading this right, that weeks 1-14 you are doing 2.8 grams of test per week?
    what are the goals of this cycle again?!?!

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    On the propecia Butcher, I use Proscar which is propecia only Proscar is 5mg and propecia is 1mg.

    I use 2.5mg(package last 30 days at that dose) a day for prostate and hair relief. Prostate relief was noticed almost immediately, effects on hair take roughly a month.

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    Bro .. looks like you've got your t's crossed and i's dotted on this one. Looks good to me .. however, my nuts do hurt a little when looking over that cycle. Good luck!

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    GOod luck bro's!!! Try to stay as healthy as possible. BDTR, remember those pics when your done...same with you others

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    looks good bro,all this talk of big cycles again have my head doing overtime, i just woke up the other day thinking i should just start on large doses of test/eq right now!!! lol just came out of the blue, but of course i didnt do it, being the responsible person i am! Anyway sounds like you have it all to plan, not to complicated, i personally dont like the larger doses of hcg , although i do like the extra strength i get when i take it, i usually do the 500iu ed for 10 days method, but each to their own, hope it works out well

    peace

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    Very nice!!!!

    I start my cycle on monday and am doing a contest over on SM so i will be posting my progress.

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    2800 test? Man, Im all for someone that knows what their doing to do some killer cycles and all..but I think thats a bit high maybe lol

    I think 200-300 would be better. Thats me though, Im not too familiar with your or your experience so you would know better than I would.

    I like everything else. Personally Id smash the two times you have var together and run either it or the tren at the very end, finishing together with the prop.

    wks 15-16 look like a waste too me. I wouldnt ever use more than 1000ius of hcg at one time either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hybrid
    Am I reading this right, that weeks 1-14 you are doing 2.8 grams of test per week?
    Correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENraged
    what are the goals of this cycle again?!?!
    Hit 330lbs or more, and then cut back down for the Spring/Summer. Depending on how some things go career wise, I'd like to enter a Renegades or similar MMA fight in late Summer or early Fall of 2004. So, essentially I want to hit my wieght goal, and then lean out and get in fighting shape by next summer.

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    I thought the same thing as BB the first time I read it...2.8g of test is A LOT! But you know your body more than I, or anyone else, would. I would like to see the progress pics also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pheedno
    On the propecia Butcher, I use Proscar which is propecia only Proscar is 5mg and propecia is 1mg.

    I use 2.5mg(package last 30 days at that dose) a day for prostate and hair relief. Prostate relief was noticed almost immediately, effects on hair take roughly a month.

    Thanks Pheed. Is that something I can run year round?

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    Why stop for 2 weeks? Use the hcg to prevent athorpy, it'll help with recovery. Do 2 injections a week of hcg at 500-1000iu through the whole cycle. This way you keep your boys from shinking.

    I agree with Billy that's a lot of test, but you already know my view on high doses

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Original Jason
    looks good bro,all this talk of big cycles again have my head doing overtime, i just woke up the other day thinking i should just start on large doses of test/eq right now!!! lol just came out of the blue, but of course i didnt do it, being the responsible person i am! Anyway sounds like you have it all to plan, not to complicated, i personally dont like the larger doses of hcg , although i do like the extra strength i get when i take it, i usually do the 500iu ed for 10 days method, but each to their own, hope it works out well

    peace
    Then you know how hard it is for me to come off right now. I want to hit this cycle so bad my teeth hurt! I've been real close to just saying fuck it, and go ahead and start that first week. But, I'll be responsible and get the blood work and let my body rest a bit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyB
    Why stop for 2 weeks? Use the hcg to prevent athorpy, it'll help with recovery. Do 2 injections a week of hcg at 500-1000iu through the whole cycle. This way you keep your boys from shinking.

    I agree with Billy that's a lot of test, but you already know my view on high doses

    JohnnyB

    I was going to stop for 2 weeks just to give the body a little break. I've never tried it that way, but I think it would be nice to not have to stick a friggin needle in myself for 2 weeks!

    My nuts don't atrophy anymore, so I was sticking the hcg in there @ Week 16 just to keep my nuts working. (or, actually I guess that would be starting them again)

    And yes JB, I know your views on the high test doses. I appreciate the concern. If I notice it affecting me adversely, I will lower it. But, since I have been just fine on as much as 1750mg/week, I think I should be able to tolerate an extra gram.

    Where's your mandatory, "How old are you" question? Oh, yeah, you already know that. Good to hear from you again bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Butcher
    Thanks Pheed. Is that something I can run year round?

    Yeah, you shouldn't have a problem. Any sides that are usually seen are sexual in nature and with 2800mg of test, I don't think there will be a problem getting Wonka for your Willy.

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    Well my man i do not ever plan on useing that much shit in a cycle...ever!
    but man i would love to see some before and after pics. When you get down to contest weight i think bdtr, ironfist and you should all have a go in the cage. Now that would be sweet 3 roid freaks smacking the shit out of each other in the name of good clean fun

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    Wow, bro thats one HUGE cycle. You and bdtr are going to morph during these big cycles. Good luck man. Like I told bdtr, check in w/atleast one of us every 2 to 3 days so we know your not dead....LOL.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Butcher
    Where's your mandatory, "How old are you" question? Oh, yeah, you already know that. Good to hear from you again bro.
    We know each other so well don't we

    JohnnyB

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    mama....

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    Man oh man I can't wait to start my monster of a cycle. I'm aiming for Nov. or Dec. as well. Here's mine thanks to bdtr and a few others.

    Week 1-4
    Test Prop 100mg ED
    Week 1-40
    Test E. 1gram/week
    Week 1-20
    Deca 800mg/week
    Week 10-40
    Eq 800mg/week
    Week 9-12
    Anadrol 150mg ED
    Week 17-20
    Anadrol 150mg ED
    Week 20-42
    Fina 100mg ED
    Week 37-42
    Winni 150mg ED
    Week 1-42
    Proviron 50mg ED
    arimidex .5mg ED
    Hcg 500iu's every Monday/Tuesday

    PCT:
    HCG 2500iu's every 3 days
    Clomid 300/100/50
    Nolva 20mg ED
    Proviron 25mg ED
    Last edited by BIG TEXAN; 09-11-2003 at 02:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG TEXAN
    Man oh man I can't wait to start my monster of a cycle. I'm aiming for Nov. or Dec. as well. Here's mine thanks to bdtr and a few others.

    Week 1-4
    Prop 100mg ED
    Week 1-40
    Test 1g/week
    Week 1-20
    Deca 800mg/week
    Week 21-40
    Eq 800mg/week
    Week 5-8
    Anadrol 150mg ED
    Week 12-15
    Dbol 50mg ED
    Week 20-42
    Fina 100mg ED
    Week 37-42
    Winni 75mg ED
    Week 1-42
    Proviron 50mg ED
    Arimidex .5mg ED
    Hcg 2500iu's evey Mon., Tues.
    PCT
    HCG 2500 iu's every 3 days
    Clomid 300/100/50
    Nolva 20mg ED
    (Maybe) Proviron 25mg ED

    BT, did I read that correctly in that you are doing 2500iu of hcg every Mon and Tues during your cycle? If so, why? Other than that, looks like a nice one.

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    Well I was told to do such to help keep the boys from shriveling away to nothing. Too much, what if I lowered it to 500iu's every Mon/Tues.???

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG TEXAN
    Well I was told to do such to help keep the boys from shriveling away to nothing. Too much, what if I lowered it to 500iu's every Mon/Tues.???
    500 is golden. 2500 and you might grow titties

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    To The Butcher...

    Screw my first cycle of test/eq

    I'm going straight for your cycle for my first time, I'm 9 years old.. I think I'm ready!

    J/P

    I hope you can keep a steady pic post, any before pics?

    Rock on

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    I like the cycle alot...900mgs of deca a week but knock my dick in the dirt and get rid of my hair in a hurry though...

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    Pheedno, actually I have changed this cycle so damn much since I started piecing it together and with all the other crap going on in my life I think I just mistakingly put 2500 instead of 500. I just looked over my journal and I see I originally wrote 500 iu's every Mon/Tues. I like titties but I don't want a pair attached to me.

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