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    1st cycle started today

    O.K. I;ve made alot of post of what I was gonna do for a first
    and now I started today with 325mg test e and 200mg bold
    both qv. heres what my cycle will look like.

    wk 1-13 750 test e
    wk 1-12 400mg eq
    .25 l-dex ed
    10mg nolva ed

    clomid 300/100/50 and 20mg nolva ed pct

    my question is I have enough d-bol to run 35mg ed
    for 4 wks to kick start...should I

    also most will say to drop the test to 500 wk does anyone
    think it is a good amount?

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    Quote Originally Posted by damiongage
    O.K. I;ve made alot of post of what I was gonna do for a first
    and now I started today with 325mg test e and 200mg bold
    both qv. heres what my cycle will look like.

    wk 1-13 750 test e
    wk 1-12 400mg eq
    .25 l-dex ed
    10mg nolva ed

    clomid 300/100/50 and 20mg nolva ed pct

    my question is I have enough d-bol to run 35mg ed
    for 4 wks to kick start...should I

    also most will say to drop the test to 500 wk does anyone
    think it is a good amount?
    Way too much test for a first cycle. In fact, you are running over a gram of products on a first cycle. Bad idea. I grew 24 lbs on my first cycle of 250 of test. The problem is your body will require as much as you are running now on future cycles. You are limiting your future to high doses and they just arent necessary if you are lifting, resting and eating right. Cut down to 500 at the most.

    As for the dbol jumpstart, you can go with that, but as this is your first cycle, that would be a 3rd compaound and as you have no idea how your body reacts to any of them, you will not know which one is causing negative sides if they appear.

    Remember, its not the quantity of the gear that give you the results, its the quality of the diet and workouts! Good Luck!

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    I would only run 500 mg test/wk and i would save the Dbol for a future cycle. Test will be just fine for a first cycle.

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    Test only at 400-500mg a week save the rest for down the road.

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    i compltetly agree with them im on my third cycle @ 750mg of test/week

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    yeah bro i agree with the guys above no need for that much test on the first cycle. 400mg would be sufficient and def no more than 500mg/wk. My first was 400mg/wk and my second included 400mg/wk as well. Will be running third will 500mg/wk. good luck with the cycle

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    Yeah, that is alot of test for ur first cycle. 750mgs, is a lot for some guys period... GO with 250 to 500 max...

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    Yeah, thats way too much test for a first cycle. You never heard of "Over-kill" Have you. Too much of a good thing is a bad thing. MODERATION ****IT#$%^

    500mg/week is good.

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    250mgs Test Enanthate ETD.
    No more for first time.

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    ok so 750 is too much. why?
    ther is no benefit from running an extra 250 a wk?

    If I lower the test to 500 and through in a d-bol kick start
    do you like it?
    Last edited by damiongage; 12-14-2003 at 11:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damiongage
    ok so 750 is too much. why?
    ther is no benefit from running an extra 250 a wk?

    If I lower the test to 500 and through in a d-bol kick start
    do you like it?
    For your first cycle you just don't need 750mg. You will grow like a weed on the 500mg. I would also save the dbol for your next cycle as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damiongage
    ok so 750 is too much. why?
    ther is no benefit from running an extra 250 a wk?
    Toolman said:
    The problem is your body will require as much as you are running now on future cycles. You are limiting your future to high doses and they just arent necessary if you are lifting, resting and eating right.
    There is the perfect answer.

    I know many folks run dbol to jumpstart, but you might just go with injectables on your first cycle...to determine how your body reacts to them alone.

    Ron wrote an excellent post about a first cycle. In it, he mentioned being doubled over in bed for a couple of days...unable to workout...due to the dbol.

    Here is the link...scroll down to the part about "Dbol and other orals."

    http://anabolicreview.com/vbulletin/...ad.php?t=70591

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    Quote Originally Posted by swellin
    Toolman said:There is the perfect answer.

    I know many folks run dbol to jumpstart, but you might just go with injectables on your first cycle...to determine how your body reacts to them alone.

    Ron wrote an excellent post about a first cycle. In it, he mentioned being doubled over in bed for a couple of days...unable to workout...due to the dbol.

    Here is the link...scroll down to the part about "Dbol and other orals."

    http://anabolicreview.com/vbulletin/...ad.php?t=70591
    Yeah, but the girl called Ron the next day and told him the bad news, he went to the Doc and got a shot, everything was OK after that....it wasn't the D-Bol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swellin
    Toolman said:There is the perfect answer.

    I know many folks run dbol to jumpstart, but you might just go with injectables on your first cycle...to determine how your body reacts to them alone.

    Ron wrote an excellent post about a first cycle. In it, he mentioned being doubled over in bed for a couple of days...unable to workout...due to the dbol.

    Here is the link...scroll down to the part about "Dbol and other orals."

    http://anabolicreview.com/vbulletin/...ad.php?t=70591
    I agree 100%. Although a jump start on a cycle is nice, dont complicate things if sides appear. I started my first cycle with dbol and by the end of the first week, my glands were so swollen I couldn't move my neck. I stopped everything and it went away. A month later I started my cycle w/out dbol and sure enough I learned it was the dbol that my body doesn't like. I lost a month waiting to learn it. Run a simple first cycle of 1 compund, 2 at the most. Be patient and learn how your body reacts to each.

    To answer another reason why not to use 750, your body doesn't need it and anything that doesnt bind, becomes estrogen, hence the greater sides on the higher dosages.

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