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    What do you think?

    What do you guys think of 250 mg of cypionate mondays, and 200 mg T200 on thursdays? this cycle to weak for a first? what would you experienced guys recommend? thanks for your help. Bare in mind I only have 1 10cc bottle of each, how can i optimize my cycle for good gains?

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    I would say thats fine for a starter cycle. I know myself and many others have started with less and got great gains. Make sure you have clomid for pct.

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    thanks for the input, do clomid and novadex give same results? or are they for different usages?

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    They dont give results like a steroid . Clomid helps your body recover its natural test levels, Nolv is an anti-e that stops the estrogen from binding after its been formed. It helps reduce water retention and gyno. One thing to remember is that nolv does not help these things for deca or fina. Instead you need to use bromo.

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    That would be fine

    for PCT, I would suggest both clomid and Nolva

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    **** pheedo when did you become a moderator

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRE
    **** pheedo when did you become a moderator
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    Well thats cool, you have the most knowledge Id say. Monster you get everything you need.

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    sorry to bother, this might be redundant, but im getting mixed messages from friends. 250mg of cyp and 200mg of t2 a week, for outlook of 10 weeks, is that a good cycle, or would you change that in some way? I only have a bottle of each. Thanks for all the help guys.

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    For a first cycle that is absolutely sufficient. My forst cycle was 300mg of deca for 7 weeks and 30mg of dbol for 4 weeks. Not your typical first cycle but I kept 15 pounds in the end. Your cycle is much more standard for a beginner. Dont change it.

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    Oh I forgot one thing. If you can or are willing I would break the shot into twice a week. So on Mon take .5 cc of the cyp and .5 cc of the testoviron (deca ) and then repeat on thursday.

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    TRE you are the man, thanks a bunch - that settles it .5cc of cyp .5cc of t2 on monday, and again on thurs. Whats benefit of doing .5cc of each two times a week compared to 1cc of cyp and 1cc of t2 on seperate days?

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    Keeps your blood levels more even and I think it keeps your pump going strong all week. This should give you better gains. Good luck with the cycle.

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