Why the hell are my shots hurting so much............?

**the dent depot** · 12-15-2003, 05:27 PM

I have used QV TE 250 and had little to no pain. I have used BTG TE 200...no pain. I have used UpJohn TC 200...nada. But now I'm using an underground TE 200mg/ml and it hurts like the fires of hell. I have spoken at length with my supplier, and asked if it could be the BA...he said:
"The BA content is only .9% well below that which would cause pain."
I asked about strility...he said:
"Man I honestly have know clue why you are having pain from that 200mg/ml
TE. This is a first for sure. Our lab conditions are as, if not more
sterile, than those of brand names. They only have the FDA to please.
We on the other hand, have to deal directly with the end users. So, sterility
is out. No question there."

Why does my ass hurt for 5 days after?

And if my "guy" is reading this...please dont think I'm unhappy...I just wanted to run it by my fellow bro's!!!!!

I especially would like to hear from billybathgate and phendo...the chem guys (sorry if I mispelled your names guys...it is just from memory).

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**iron4life79** · 12-15-2003, 05:32 PM

well,
im not BB or pheedno, but i have a simple question........

what U.G. stuff are you using? there may be other bros out there with related issues.

peace I4L

**the dent depot** · 12-15-2003, 05:34 PM

Well I think they call it ProTest.

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**iron4life79** · 12-15-2003, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by the dent depot

Well I think they call it ProTest.

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Ive never heard of it bro..........sorry, but i'm gonna bump it for you.

peace I4L

**stengun** · 12-15-2003, 08:50 PM

Howdy Dent,

Originally Posted by the dent depot

I have used QV TE 250 and had little to no pain. I have used BTG TE 200...no pain. I have used UpJohn TC 200...nada. But now I'm using an underground TE 200mg/ml and it hurts like the fires of hell.

I think you answered your own question

Stengun

**hercules88** · 12-15-2003, 09:12 PM

i heard protest was supposed to be painless unless the painless is the 500mgl/ml stuff.

***JohnnyB*** · 12-15-2003, 10:36 PM

Is that proline's test e? and if it's 500mg that could be the prob

JohnnyB

**Dude-Man** · 12-15-2003, 10:41 PM

That's what proline calls his testosterone products.

yeah, protest=proline. he doesn't make a 200 mg/ml enanthate .. only a 250 and a 500.. a fake may be your problem.

**the dent depot** · 12-15-2003, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by chrisAdams

yeah, protest=proline. he doesn't make a 200 mg/ml enanthate.. only a 250 and a 500.. a fake may be your problem.

0% chance it's fake...so that's out. I typed Protest and not Proline...this guy offers 400 & 200 concentrations......My bud did his 400 and couldnt even train b/c of the pain. I pussed out and went for the 200mg which
I suspect hurts half as much as the 400mg...

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***JohnnyB*** · 12-15-2003, 10:46 PM

faking a UG product

JohnnyB

**Dude-Man** · 12-15-2003, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by the dent depot

0% chance it's fake...so that's out. I typed Protest and not Proline...this guy offers 400 & 200 concentrations......My bud did his 400 and couldnt even train b/c of the pain. I pussed out and went for the 200mg which
I suspect hurts half as much as the 400mg...

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I must be confused.
Protest is what ProLINE calls his testosterone products, so i'm not confused there. And he also uses .9% BA, so i'm not confused there either.

There must be another lab or something that also calls their products protest.. tell us the name of the lab, not the name of the gear... that might help.

**the dent depot** · 12-15-2003, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

faking a UG product

JohnnyB

For sure it's not fake...........

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**Dude-Man** · 12-15-2003, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by the dent depot

For sure it's not fake...........

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what is the name of the lab? he might be shtting you about the BA concentration. I have a friend who is on proline's cyp, which is .9% BA, and 300 mg/ml and he has no pain.. so logically, if it truly is .9% BA, you should be having no pain either.

**King Test** · 12-15-2003, 11:49 PM

Bite down and learn to enjoy the pain.

**the dent depot** · 12-16-2003, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by King Test

Bite down and learn to enjoy the pain.

Lol..yea, I hear ya. No biggie really...I just wondered why nothing else hurt like this before. So, everyone, the consensus is that it must be the BA?

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**Ntpadude** · 12-16-2003, 12:46 AM

I've had some injections go painless one week, the next, using same gear, same vail, hurts like a bitch and lumps up and hurts for about 6 days.

Well I understand this happens from not landing the end of the needle squarely in middle of muscle and some leaks out into sub-q area. Any bit of gear oil in sub-q is going to knot up on you, more often then not most of these knots are abcesses but they are uninfected and go away in approx 6-7 days. You can also hit the grissle between gluteus medias and gluteus maximus and cause this same reaction. Try to aim to hit that grissle and probably only hit it one in 7 times but sometimes ship happens you know?

Lumps and pain... benedril helps a little.

**the dent depot** · 12-16-2003, 01:17 AM

No, its the meds. I have done dozens of injections, and know the various pains that the needle can cause...I use 1.5"...so I know its not going sub q...I know the proper quadrant and hit it every time...I take over a min to inject...no movement...etc

Update...its been 4 or so (maybe 5) hours since I shot it, and the pain is already quite bad...I can just imagine tomorrow and the next day...

One theory I had was that maybe the powder used was/is more coarse than Pharm. grade gear. Maybe its larger crystals deposited in my glute that feel like buck shot...not as fine a particle? If it isn't that I have to blame it on the BA....but DAM N!!!!

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**Dude-Man** · 12-16-2003, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by the dent depot

No, its the meds. I have done dozens of injections, and know the various pains that the needle can cause...I use 1.5"...so I know its not going sub q...I know the proper quadrant and hit it every time...I take over a min to inject...no movement...etc

Update...its been 4 or so (maybe 5) hours since I shot it, and the pain is already quite bad...I can just imagine tomorrow and the next day...

One theory I had was that maybe the powder used was/is more coarse than Pharm. grade gear. Maybe its larger crystals deposited in my glute that feel like buck shot...not as fine a particle? If it isn't that I have to blame it on the BA....but DAM N!!!!

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if you can't see the particles, they probably aren't there. try heating the gear up a little before you inject.. put the vial in some hot tap water before you draw.. that way if there were crystals to beging with, they'll dissolve.