revisited- all opinions welcome

[zx7racing]

revised new year cycle:

5+ yrs training experience

27 yrs old

210 lbs

Approx. 15-18% bf (fixing that before beginning my cycle, hope to begin cycle at 10-12%)

goals- 15-20 lbs of quality “keep-able” wt.

after cycle and pct- plan on cutting to at least 10% bf (hopefully natural, but have clen on hand)

1-10 400mg test cyp
1-8 400mg deca
1-4 40mg dianabol

pct clomid and nolva

generic bulk cycle i know, always have lacked in creativity- anyhow looking for knowledgeable opinions.
thanks

[Pheedno]

Put the cyp at 12 and the deca at 10 and you r good to go

[paulastone]

Why not deca 10 weeks too like cyp??

[Mart651]

easier to recover from deca if yuo run test longer

[zx7racing]

pheedno- i was hoping you would give some advice.....

i am limited with the test- being that i have exactly enough to run 400mg wk for 10 weeks. same with the deca , but was thinking i may back it off a bit.

my original plan was to run 400 and 400 for 10 weeks plus the d-bol and of course pct? thought i had a solid plan now i being critical.

any other thoughts?

[Taejoon]

Put the cyp at 12 and the deca at 10 and you r good to go

I Agree with Pheed on the lengths, but if it were me, I'd bump the test to 500mg/week. Just personal preference, but I usually like to have the test in my cycle running higher than any other drugs by at least 100-200mg/week.

Peace

-Taejoon

[zx7racing]

i understand the point of having a higher test value in your cycle opposed to deca , but with keeping my test at 400mg wk @10 wks the only other option i have is to reduce my deca to 300mg wk and keep it @10wks... make sence to everyone else?

[Pheedno]

Well, Deca needs at least 10. If you only have enough to go 10 on the test, then run both 10wks

Recovery won't be as easy, but the extra 2wks of deca is worth it

[Mart651]

i understand the point of having a higher test value in your cycle opposed to deca, but with keeping my test at 400mg wk @10 wks the only other option i have is to reduce my deca to 300mg wk and keep it @10wks... make sence to everyone else?

Sorry I'm not pheedno
that sounds good if thats all you got. If it counts

[zx7racing]

Pheedno- thats what i was concerned about- wheather or not the deca had enough cycle time to get the true efficacy from it.
as your point of recovery not being as "easy"- are you saying that i shoulf try a different method of pct?
plan is the typical 300/100/50 clomid to include nolva..

[zx7racing]

mart- didnt mean to hurt your feelings, i still love ya

[Taejoon]

Pheed's got you covered, not much else you can do if you can't get your hands on any more gear.

Peace

-Taejoon

[Mart651]

I always try to run my deca a little lower but at my age sex drive is realy important. If pheedno thinks running it at the same dosage want hurt you than he's probably correct. It's just not for me.

[Pheedno]

For your PCT, I'd do 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva for 28 days

[zx7racing]

no tapering with the clomid?
have you done this before?

[Pheedno]

Thats how I run my PCT everytime

[zx7racing]

i'm not questioning you- but i havent ever heard of running a pct program like that? (not that i am a mad scientist or gear running guru)
could you give me some reasons for your opinion, or point me to where i can find the answers to my own question..
thanks pd, your advice is always appreciated

[Pheedno]

Well, the 300mg frontload is a feasible way of doing PCT.

Clomid has a half-life of 5-7 days. It takes 4x that to get to steady blood plasma levels, so frontloading the 300 lessens that length of time.
I get occular interference too sever for the 300, so I start with 100mg.

I don't taper to 50, just becasue I've found 100 straight through to work the best for myself

Either way of PCT will work, The above is just my way

[zx7racing]

that makes sense...
i havent used clomid before so i dont know if the frontload is going to give me sight probs...
let me know what you think of this-
days 1-15 100mg 20mg nolva
days 15-12 50mg 20mg nolva
? sound silly?