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    Deca/ Test Cycle??????

    Starting 3rd cycle in Jan. I have a couple of questions. I have QV deca 300, QV Enat 250, QV Winny 100. My questions are:

    1. Should I run the deca @ 250 or 200 2x per week? (This with 250 of enat 2x per week.)

    2. I have bromo, nolva, and clomid. Should I run the bromo and nolva during cycle or until symtoms appear? Also, what doses of bromo?

    Thank you!

    Stats: 5'11, 235lb, 34yrs, 12% bf

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    This is just a example of what you can do

    1 - 12 Enan 500mg
    1 - 10 Deca 400mg
    9 - 14 Winny 50mg ED
    1 - 14 Nolva 10mg ED
    1 - 14 L-dex .25 ED

    Start PCT 1 day after last winny dose:
    Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
    Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
    Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva

    Do not run the bromo unless you see signs of progestrogen related gyno.......... bromo will suppress your appitite....... and at the doses your running you shouldn't have a problem.

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    mudman- could you explain why the pct for his above mentioned cycle should be so long?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zx7racing
    mudman- could you explain why the pct for his above mentioned cycle should be so long?
    It's not long at all............ Deca shuts down HPTA functions hard...... To get it back up you will need to run PCT for 4 weeks........ I also throw a week of Nolva after PCT to insure I will not have a rebound effect.

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    makes sense, thanks

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    Mudman has a good solid cycle and knows what he's talking about. If I had a question he is one of the few on this board that I would really trust. Im just wondering what your cycle experience is. If this is your first cycle cut the winny out and drop the deca to 300 a week. With twice a week injections you could take 1cc test and .5cc deca mon and thur.

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    Yup with deca 4 weeks minimum

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    i agree with mudman 110%

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    This will be third cycle. Last was May-July 03. Looked something like 400EQ/400Cyp per week for 10 weeks. Wks 8-14 winny @ 50mg eod. Mudman,thanks for thoroughly answering my questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    This is just a example of what you can do

    1 - 12 Enan 500mg
    1 - 10 Deca 400mg
    9 - 14 Winny 50mg ED
    1 - 14 Nolva 10mg ED
    1 - 14 L-dex .25 ED

    Start PCT 1 day after last winny dose:
    Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
    Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
    Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva

    Do not run the bromo unless you see signs of progestrogen related gyno.......... bromo will suppress your appitite....... and at the doses your running you shouldn't have a problem.
    Spot on.

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