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    reading my a** off, need tips for 1st cycle

    35 years old
    6' 4"
    240lbs
    17% body fat

    240-300gms protein daily
    some prohormone use
    4 day training split ( I train hard!! )

    want to make some gains and want them to last. quick in, quick out is the plan.
    need help from the bro's on this forum so I dont need to ask a series of dumb questions.
    thanks for your time

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    the best first user cycle is...

    wk 1-12 test enath 400-500mg (split into twice a week)
    wk 15-18 clomid
    wk 1-18 nolva 10mg ed

    you will be very happy with the results

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    Quote Originally Posted by pestis
    35 years old
    6' 4"
    240lbs
    17% body fat

    240-300gms protein daily
    some prohormone use
    4 day training split ( I train hard!! )

    want to make some gains and want them to last. quick in, quick out is the plan.
    need help from the bro's on this forum so I dont need to ask a series of dumb questions.
    thanks for your time

    I would add some more protein especially while your on gear. I consume 450g and i only weigh 185 pounds.

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    250mg Enan E4D 10-12wks
    .25mg L-dex + 10mg Nolva ED throughout cycle

    Clomid/Nolva combo for PCT(post cycle therapy ) 100mg + 20mg for 30 days

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    Excellent ideas from the bros, but i would suggest:

    Fina (tren )- 6 weeks 100mgs/Eod
    Test Prop - 8 weeks 100mgs/Eod

    Clomid/Novaldex on hand - If you can get around giving yourself a shot every other day this is a very nice cycle...Chances are you will keep your gains and I'm telling you...It's good ****...Add a high calorie diet, with your protein i'd see you close to 300lbs no prob...

    BTW: throw your prohormones out, They are not worth it...

    Good luck bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by monster.
    Excellent ideas from the bros, but i would suggest:

    Fina (tren )- 6 weeks 100mgs/Eod
    Test Prop - 8 weeks 100mgs/Eod

    Clomid/Novaldex on hand - If you can get around giving yourself a shot every other day this is a very nice cycle...Chances are you will keep your gains and I'm telling you...It's good ****...Add a high calorie diet, with your protein i'd see you close to 300lbs no prob...

    BTW: throw your prohormones out, They are not worth it...

    Good luck bro
    Nope, Pheednos is a much better cycle. First it is best to use only one compound in a first cycle and also eveery day sticks for your first run is no good.

    As for a quick in and out, once you start you'll want more. I was the same, mid 30's, good shape, wanted to add 15 lbs or so. I added 24 on my first cycle and was hooked from there.

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    my suggestion is


    30mgs dbol wks 1-4
    test cyponate 400 mgs wks 1-10

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    500mg week of test enathate. every 4th dayand pct on hand nolva and clomid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toolman
    Nope, Pheednos is a much better cycle. First it is best to use only one compound in a first cycle and also eveery day sticks for your first run is no good.

    As for a quick in and out, once you start you'll want more. I was the same, mid 30's, good shape, wanted to add 15 lbs or so. I added 24 on my first cycle and was hooked from there.

    Ok...make it a second cycle idea...Some sort of test, cyp, enth, run it one shot every 4 days, I'd throw at least dbol in, 30mgs and then follow up with PCT...

    Good times with that one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pheedno
    250mg Enan E4D 10-12wks
    .25mg L-dex + 10mg Nolva ED throughout cycle

    Clomid/Nolva combo for PCT(post cycle therapy) 100mg + 20mg for 30 days

    This is it bro..laid out for you in front of your face.........

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    Bro,

    Do not go under 500mg of test a week.Just an opinion from a guy in his thirties too. Like other said at 6'4 240, just keep simple and get some good human grade test like primoteston and inject 250mg 2x a week. Next cycle can use other substances. Eat 400-500 grams of protein for your size. 4000 calories to bulk up.... Good luck bro.....

    KD

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    Quote Originally Posted by pestis
    35 years old
    6' 4"
    240lbs
    17% body fat

    240-300gms protein daily
    some prohormone use
    4 day training split ( I train hard!! )

    want to make some gains and want them to last. quick in, quick out is the plan.
    need help from the bro's on this forum so I dont need to ask a series of dumb questions.
    thanks for your time
    Well Im 34 and prett much the same. After asking questions here Ive decided on the following.

    10-12 week cycls.

    400mg Test prop
    250-300mg Deca

    Followed by Clomid for 5 weeks after.
    And Ill be doing some Clenbutyrol to help burn off some of the fat I may accumulate get from eating so much.

    Yes, your protein intake seems a little low. At least 3gm per Kg of body weight is needed and perhaps more. Thus you should be looking in the range of 400-500gm per day. If you start balooning up cut back but once you start to grow your muscles are gonna crave it.

    Go for it!

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