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12-23-2003, 06:38 PM #1Junior Member
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reading my a** off, need tips for 1st cycle
35 years old
6' 4"
240lbs
17% body fat
240-300gms protein daily
some prohormone use
4 day training split ( I train hard!! )
want to make some gains and want them to last. quick in, quick out is the plan.
need help from the bro's on this forum so I dont need to ask a series of dumb questions.
thanks for your time
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12-23-2003, 07:01 PM #2
the best first user cycle is...
wk 1-12 test enath 400-500mg (split into twice a week)
wk 15-18 clomid
wk 1-18 nolva 10mg ed
you will be very happy with the results
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12-23-2003, 07:02 PM #3Originally Posted by pestis
I would add some more protein especially while your on gear. I consume 450g and i only weigh 185 pounds.
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12-23-2003, 07:04 PM #4Respected Member
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250mg Enan E4D 10-12wks
.25mg L-dex + 10mg Nolva ED throughout cycle
Clomid/Nolva combo for PCT(post cycle therapy ) 100mg + 20mg for 30 days
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12-23-2003, 07:47 PM #5
Excellent ideas from the bros, but i would suggest:
Fina (tren )- 6 weeks 100mgs/Eod
Test Prop - 8 weeks 100mgs/Eod
Clomid/Novaldex on hand - If you can get around giving yourself a shot every other day this is a very nice cycle...Chances are you will keep your gains and I'm telling you...It's good ****...Add a high calorie diet, with your protein i'd see you close to 300lbs no prob...
BTW: throw your prohormones out, They are not worth it...
Good luck bro
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12-23-2003, 07:54 PM #6Banned
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Originally Posted by monster.
As for a quick in and out, once you start you'll want more. I was the same, mid 30's, good shape, wanted to add 15 lbs or so. I added 24 on my first cycle and was hooked from there.
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12-23-2003, 07:55 PM #7Member
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my suggestion is
30mgs dbol wks 1-4
test cyponate 400 mgs wks 1-10
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12-23-2003, 07:59 PM #8
500mg week of test enathate. every 4th dayand pct on hand nolva and clomid.
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12-23-2003, 08:09 PM #9Originally Posted by toolman
Ok...make it a second cycle idea...Some sort of test, cyp, enth, run it one shot every 4 days, I'd throw at least dbol in, 30mgs and then follow up with PCT...
Good times with that one...
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12-23-2003, 08:11 PM #10Originally Posted by Pheedno
This is it bro..laid out for you in front of your face.........
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12-24-2003, 05:33 AM #11New Member
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Bro,
Do not go under 500mg of test a week.Just an opinion from a guy in his thirties too. Like other said at 6'4 240, just keep simple and get some good human grade test like primoteston and inject 250mg 2x a week. Next cycle can use other substances. Eat 400-500 grams of protein for your size. 4000 calories to bulk up.... Good luck bro.....
KD
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12-24-2003, 08:09 AM #12Originally Posted by pestis
10-12 week cycls.
400mg Test prop
250-300mg Deca
Followed by Clomid for 5 weeks after.
And Ill be doing some Clenbutyrol to help burn off some of the fat I may accumulate get from eating so much.
Yes, your protein intake seems a little low. At least 3gm per Kg of body weight is needed and perhaps more. Thus you should be looking in the range of 400-500gm per day. If you start balooning up cut back but once you start to grow your muscles are gonna crave it.
Go for it!
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