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    EQ and Anavar cycle

    I'm 25 yrs old, 185 lbs 5'7" well proportioned and maybe 15 body fat if that....

    I would like to get more quality and try this w/ no test, what do you guys think?

    will it work? and how much should I take?

    (my pic is in the member section and i'm still pretty much the same, a lil fatter cause winter time, lol)

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    Need some test, too many negative factors are possible without it included

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    "negative factors?" such as?

    I'm not aware of this.

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    i love eq/var cycles good for no water retention, and good strength from the var, however saying that it wil be costly to keep it running long enough to make it work, I would say no less than 12 weeks, 40-50mg var ed, and 600mg eq every week split into 2 shots, not everyone likes it but thats just me, I might do one of those myself along with gh

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    Why no test?

    Its the cream of the crop of AAS.

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    cos the guy said no test, im past advising people on what i think they should do, unless i see it as harmful. I would of course use test myself, but i was just trying to answer the question as it was asked

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    would this cycle help you gain a solid 10-15 lbs of muscle

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    depends on ur diet, metabolism, genetics and traning, I would doubt it, more like 10 if you are lucky.

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    if someone has bad genetics are they pretty much going to say thin what ever they do....

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    not necessarily, it just takes alot more determination and effort, and eating more, steroids are not a magic pill, they just help the equation

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    cool, i may add 500 mg of test a week, i just wanna see how the anavar and eq work alone.. thanx again.

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    i was thinkin about the same cycle. . .which test is best to add. . . prop or enan?
    I was thinking
    wk 1-12 400mg test/wk
    wk1-12 400mg eq/wk
    wk 7-12 40mg anavar / ed

    the only benefit with using the prop would be the lower amount of water retention correct? but if i use the enan (bc im not a big fan of everyday injections) i can run nolv and liquidex for the bloat.?.?.?can people just tell me if the week setup above looks correct as far as PCT is concerned
    thanks eff

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel21
    "negative factors?" such as?

    I'm not aware of this.
    Lethargy
    Low/No sexdrive, impotence
    Diminshed appetite
    Immune suppression
    Harder recovery

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    what is lethary? sorry for stupid Q.

    If I add test, i'm doing sust, i never really bloat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Original Jason
    cos the guy said no test, im past advising people on what i think they should do, unless i see it as harmful. I would of course use test myself, but i was just trying to answer the question as it was asked

    peace
    Sorry Jas, that was misdirected. It was meant for diesel. I think he'll be shooting himself in the foot by cycling without test. I did it both ways before and the cycles without test never compared to the ones with test. Honestly, I can't think of one negative when it comes to test. Can you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel21
    what is lethary? sorry for stupid Q.

    If I add test, i'm doing sust, i never really bloat...
    Lethargic is being tired and exhausted all the time. As for your choice of test, everyone has their preference but if water bloat is not an issue for you I would stick to a single ester such as ethanate or cypionate . The single esters are easier to control blood levels and require less injections.

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    as i said bro, i would use test myself, however for me, i hold serious amounts of water, so unless i wanna stick myself ed with prop, sometimes i cycle without test, yes its better with, but i have ran eq and var together and if you are leaning down, using eca and t3 maybe, then for me it worked wonders in helping to maintain while i was cutting

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