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I have read many threads on Deca dik, but I have yet to hear how long it has lasted post cycle. I did a Test E 250/Deca 300 week cycle for 14 weeks. I am now in the 13 week of post and I still have this problem. I've had it for 5 weeks now and I'm getting concerned. Is this normal? How long before I'm back to normal. I administered HCG in week 3 of post but no clomid. Can anyone give me any advice?
Is this even remotely normal?
you need clomid bro. Hcg gives you a quick shot to get you nat test back but the clomid helps to sustain the regeneration of natural test. How much hcg did you use. Are you sure of your test dose? May want to speak to a health pro. Get some cialis
I used an entire bottle of HCG (10,000mg) over a 3 week period. I didn't have clomid and my trainer said that I wouldn't need it, given he never did. Man, my sex drive is zero and I can only get half erect at best. Should I expect improvements soon? I used Test E at 250mg dosages, once a week.
my advice to you would be to drop your personal trainer, if he gave you that advice, he/she is probably not too bright
In the meantime, when should I see this side effect subside? Any time soon? Need a little help here.
lord knows when your body will come back to normal on it's own, if ever at all, you need to get clomid and run proper pct, if that doesn't work, you definitely should go see a doctor right away
Bro everyone is different nobody can say well it will last 16 weeks or whatever. I have been where you are take your lesson keep it in mind in the future. Now I would get some clomid from a research lab, and use the pct protocol of 300mg 100mg then 50mg for 28 days. Thats just what I would do. Or you may want to go see a doc
Jesus, this is a possible permanent condition?
Some countries dose convicted rapists with deca for about 15 to 20 weeks before released from prison and it generally works like chemical castration and keeps them from having any desire to rape a woman (or man) ever again. Deca should never run past 10 weeks, I would assume there is damage and the deca made you a primary hypogonadic. Better go to doctor and get your endo lab tests and find out if you are now stuck on HRT/TRT for the rest of your life. Sounds bad if HCG and 14 weeks have now passed since your were on cycle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick66
Well, if HCG is taken post cycle it will actually help further shut you down. I think you were shut down pretty hard from the deca, and since you used the HCG post cycle, it made it even worse. I would run nolvadex at 20mgs ED as well as clomid at 50mgs ED for about two months, if you're not back to normal then go see your doc. For the time being you may wann get some viagara or cialils to help u get by.BTW, from now on get your info from the boards rather than your trainer cause i'll tell him to his face that he don't know ****.
Just to clarify. I did not get this side effect until the 8th week in post cycle. I'm in week 13, so I've had it for 5 weeks. On occasion I have been able to achieve an erection, but only on a few occasions. I wake w/ morning wood, but soon goes away upon awaking.
Has no one else experienced a similar reaction this late in post cycle?
that sounds like it could be a psycological condition, i know thats something they ask men who have erection problems, if they wake up with erections, it's usually in the head, if i were you, before you put anymore chemicals in your body go to a doctor and tell him what's up, please don't spend two days on this board debating on whether or not to go, just go
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Originally Posted by Ntpadude
E gads,, Deca should never run past 10 weeks????? Is that 10 weeks using once a week, twice or 3 times a week like I'm on now?
Can I get a BUMP on this one to the Tech's?
wait...stop the bus...Swiper, what are you running right now for deca?
Going to doc this morning. Don't know what the hell is going on here.
from what it sounds like you forgot the pct of everything. Your test level will eventually go back to normal, but that is going to take a long time. A very long time. I did find some info about the deca being used for rapist, but the dosage they use on those guys is astronomical. And it runs for 18 weeks. (18 weeks at 1400 mg's a week!!) I saw that you had HCG with you as well, if you can still get it I would, and some Tribblus, and some clomid. You can get clomid easy, Your doctor will more then likely give you something close to Clomid anyways so you will get everything real fast.
and good luck at the doctor, and be totally honest, the more they know the better of a job they can do for you.
Thanks bro. I have been using Tribulus, 1250mgs/day. I have ordered some clomid. I do have more HCG, but was told not to use it. I gotta tell you, this is scary.
I would say....don't use the HCG just yet. I would actually use it after I got the clomid. As a kick start to the system, in conjunction with the clomid.
Looking at Mudman, This is something I would do, But what mud would tell you would be from better experience. But This is just my thoughts.
Here's a post Madmax made a while back on HCG:
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hcg: hcg helps to bring the testes back quickly to their original condition, it does stimulate test production, but it does not help in correcting the normal hypothalamic/pituitary testicular axis. HCG represses the endogenous LH production.
clomid: clomid has a strong influence on the testicular axis. It stimulates the hypophysis to release more gonadotropin so that a faster and higher release of FSH and LH occurs. This results in an increase of your own bodies testosterone level...
i have ran hcg during my cycles and found it works great, i ran it at 500 i.u ed for 14 days....if your cycle is long enough and at high enough doses you should consider using it at the end of your cycle before clomid....alot of people take a shot of 500 iu every weekend...on sat and sunday....throughout there cycle....but do not over use hcg, it will make it less effective for later cycles..Madmax...
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Also there are other post by JohnnyB and some others with very good information in that thread:
http://www.anabolicreview.com/vbulle...light=HCG+HPTA
Even if you use HCG you need to run Clomid to bring HPTA functions back and over using HCG will hamper recovery and will make using HCG less effective later on.
You need to find a new traininer this guy has ****ed you good bro....... you will end up losing most of your gains and with a limp dick until you start PCT or HPTA function recover on it's own and that will take a very long time.