12-30-2003, 10:23 PM #1
First Real Deal Cycle with Sust/Deca/Dbol
I'm 24. 6', 178 lbs. 15% bodyfat. bench 215 squat 275. Basically I'm a still kind of a string bean. Anyways here is the cycle i made for myself.
SUST (30 amps)
Wk 1-4: 500 mg/wk
Wk 5-6: 750 mg/wk
Wk 7-10: EOD
D'Bol (400 5 mg tabs)
Wk2 : 9/day
Wk 3-6: 10/day
Deca (I have 2 10 ml of 300 deca- should I use it all?)
Wk 1-10: 400 mg/wk
1. On Weeks where i need more than 2 injections, should I spot inject?
2. I plan on continuing right after this cycle with a 10 week cutting cycle (products TBA), then a 4 week taper, followed by HCG and hopefully some Clomid (if I can get it). Is this doable or am I asking for problems. The thing is, this upcoming year I will have more time to train than any time in the future.
12-30-2003, 11:25 PM #2
That's way too much for a premier cycle bro. Save the juice and do this: stick half a vial of sus EOD and mix a little over 100mg of deca in with each stick. That's not going to be easy to measure out so it won't be exact - but it's around 435mg of sus per week and about the same deca - do that for 10 weeks. That's about 18 vials of sust and about 1 1/2 bottles of deca. Save the heavier cycles for later you're young! The d-bol - try 8 a day for a few weeks and then taper it off to nothing over about a week. You won't need but 3 or 4 weeks for the deca/sust to kick in hard. Good luck!
12-30-2003, 11:29 PM #3
Have you done a previous cycle? You said this is your first read deal cycle? How long have you been training as well? If not too long you might be able to put on a few more pounds through a increase in diet.
12-30-2003, 11:41 PM #4Originally Posted by docflock
How long have you been lifting?
12-30-2003, 11:54 PM #5
I dont belive in going up and down with your dosages when taking injections. And I most defenitely dont belive in staggering Dbol , it is way too fast acting to stagger up and down. If I was you I would just take 30mg p/day Dbol for 4 weeks, and take 500mg test week 1 - 12. Week 1 - 10 take 300mg deca . 400 is too much. I hope this isnt your 1st cycle
01-03-2004, 01:27 PM #6
I have done previous cycles before, just the wrong amounts. First cycle I did deca , 1 shot per week for 8 weeks. Next cycle I did Sust alone, 250 mg/wk. After that I did 250 mg deca and 250 mg Sust together for 8 weeks. In hindsight I realize that these cycles were a waste although I did get some modest gains.
As for how long I have been training: about 2 years. I started with very little strength after years of basketball being my only form of exercise.
01-03-2004, 01:42 PM #7Banned
Originally Posted by docflock
- Join Date
- May 2003
Remember, it does not take alot of gear to grow. If your lifting, resting and eating right, you will gow alot off a little.
01-03-2004, 04:29 PM #8
I did put some size on for the deca /sust cycle (about 12 lbs)
Llet me give you an idea of what I'm eating (approx 6-7 meals). B'fast 6 whites, 2 yolks, oatmeal, orange juice. 1 post workout shake, 40 g protein, 2 tablespoons flax, 12 oz orange juice. For the the rest of the meals usually 6-8 oz of turkey or chicken, about 60 g of carbs (about 40 of them from brown rice or other complex carb). Everything I eat is very trim in fat. I have tried the eat everything in site diet, and I looked like ****. Sure I was a bit stronger, but to get the fat that came with it in the end off by diet cost most of the muscle I put on.
As for training, I have finally converted to heavy lifting. In the past, reading retarded magazines like Muscle & Fitness that suggest 8-12 reps with short rest periods did not produce solid gains. I have switched now to a heavy lifting scheme with pyramiding weights and a rep range of 4-8 reps with long rest periods in between sets. I concentrate on all the traditional strength training lifts (squat, deadlift, stiff deadlift, bench, pull-up, bar/dumb rows, etc.).
Am i doing something wrong I don't know about.
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