Thread: 8-Week Prop/Var cycle worth it?
12-31-2003, 12:41 PM #1
8-Week Prop/Var cycle worth it?
I'm thinking of doing the following and wanted to ask for some feedback...
1-8 100mg QV Prop/eod
2-8 40mg Denkall Var ed
HCG if needed
I've lifted for like 20 years, did my first cycle last summer -6'5", 235, not fat. Not expecting (or wanting) to put on 20lbs fast or anything from that. I'd be happy to keep 10 from it.
12-31-2003, 12:46 PM #2
I like it. Lean and hard gains. Go for it. Seems like you will accomplish your goals. personally, I'd up the prop to 150 eod but that is just me.
12-31-2003, 12:51 PM #3
Hey, thanks for the advice. I may up the Prop depending on how it goes -that's what appeals to me about the stuff, you can change the dose as you go along.
12-31-2003, 12:59 PM #4
True, such a short half life. You would be doing 350mg of test a week, which is good and can work but my preference would be 500. Like I said, that is just me though. I bet you see great results either way you run it.
12-31-2003, 01:27 PM #5
Oh, duh, I always thought 100mg of Prop eod worked out to the equivalent of 500mg Enanthate !
So they're actually equal? (I don't know where I got the idea Prop was less potent.)
I was actually thinking of maybe 100mg every 36 hours rather than 48, but I've never heard of anyone doing that elsewhere. That would work out to about 467mg/week.
12-31-2003, 01:30 PM #6
12-31-2003, 01:31 PM #7
It is less potent, less dosed but cheaper, but in the end, test is test.
12-31-2003, 02:08 PM #8Originally Posted by SirBen187
12-31-2003, 02:32 PM #9
Prop and var is an overall killer combo. May want to consider running a 12 week cycle as opposed to 8. I bet once you get started you won't want to stop at week 8. So have enough supplies on hand for a 12 weeker. You'll be much happier that you did.
12-31-2003, 02:38 PM #10
12-31-2003, 02:38 PM #11
And one more thing...I don't thing HCG is necessary for this cycle. You would be much better off taking r-ala or tyler's detox despite the effects of var are on the liver being overstated. As a precautionary measure...maybe, but it really isn't needed. Just my .02 cents.
12-31-2003, 02:41 PM #12Originally Posted by Rickson
12-31-2003, 03:07 PM #13
For many, HCG is an individual matter. Some people shrink up from even an all test cycle. From previous posts, I think JS may be keeping it around because of the likelihood that he'll experience unwanted shrinkage/pain.
12-31-2003, 03:14 PM #14
Yup, RA, you got that right!
Thanks for the feedback, bros!
It's not so much that Var is liver toxic, which seems always to be in debate, it's more like it wacks your HDL/LDL and I don't want to stay in that kind of wacked state too long, just for the sake of my arteries which ain't gettin younger.
Sides, it's more like I don't want to end up in a BROKE state! Otherwise I WOULD have more of it standing by!
I'm also assuming I'm eventually gonna get real tired of those eod shots after 8 weeks or so.
12-31-2003, 03:39 PM #15Originally Posted by johnsomebody
12-31-2003, 03:54 PM #16
Anybody know the formula off the top of your head?
01-15-2004, 02:54 PM #17
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