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    hardcore cutting cycle!!!!!!

    I want to do a cutting cycle that would give me a little bit of mass but all in high quality very cut muscle.. this is what i was thinking give me your input if you think the dosages are to much or to little.. or if i should drop anything..

    week1-11: prop 75mg/ed (525mg/w)
    week1-12: var 25mg/ed (175mg/w)
    week1-8.5: tren 75mg/ed (525mg/w)
    week3.5-12: winny 50mg/ed (350mg/w)
    week1-12: clen 2 weeks on 2 off(eca when not on clen)

    Stats: 6'2, 212, 5% bf, cardio train 6 days a week for 3.5 hours a day(sports). wieghts 6 days a week 1.5 hours a day.. well just let me know what you guys think.

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    Looks pretty good to me.

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    I think the var dose is slightly low and the tren dose slightly high.

    Var 35mg might be better.

    Tren 55mg a day might be better.

    Start taking Chondroitin and Glucosamine now in preperation for the winstrol . Those two compounds need about a month of steady use to accumulate in the blood to protect the joints.

    Also run the prop to week 13.

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    Holly CRAP 5% body fat?

    What sports do you play? Sheesh home boy! Why do you want to shred up more for? Must be cut like Brad Pitt.

    Doc

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    i'm a proffesional speed skater, i also road bike race.. i'm going to college next year after my speed skating contracts are done to play football and run track... Also i have a drug test coming up in april and i wanted to know if there was anyway to get around it as in taking some pills or drinking something.. i don't even know if juice comes up on it.. it's a piss test but i'm kinda scared it's a 2 year suspension if i fail... any help would be great...

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    speed skater? So do I. Did you used to race NIRA? What you running on? I still have good ole bont with ultimate plates. You?

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    I have simmons and labeda products

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    Read which tests are held in the blood stream the longest. I don’t know them off hand because I don’t have to worry about it.

    If you are that worried I would think a diet change and some supplements will have to suffice.

    I dunno.

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    I prefer tren @75 ED. I also get the same results from tren that most use winny to achieve.

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    5% bf... and you want to cut more

    I wish I hade that much BF...

    Good Luck to you bro... bw.. your cycle looks good to!

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    Do you guys think i should run the prop at 525mg/week or 700mg/week??? with that same cycle???

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    Quote Originally Posted by savageracer
    Do you guys think i should run the prop at 525mg/week or 700mg/week??? with that same cycle???
    tren at 75mg a day works best for me for cutting, i would also ditch the winnie and bump the var to 50mg a day

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    Quote Originally Posted by savageracer
    Do you guys think i should run the prop at 525mg/week or 700mg/week??? with that same cycle???
    prop 525mg and tren 100mg eod

    doc

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    Double up the var in the last 6 weeks, 25 a day won't produce ****

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    I like it the way you wrote it out originally.

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    I am not sure my joints could handle 9 weeks of winny. You might want to replace it with a higher dose of var.

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    what if i just bump up the var and still take the winny??? I like winny i'm taking it right now.. i'm going to take something to help out with my joints... Also should i take 525 or 700 of the prop???

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    You'll do fine on 525. I would suggest some joint support. I am running winny right now at 50mg ed, and will be running 50mg of var ed with it in a couple weeks. I personally feel it is okay through my research, but decide for yourself if 2 17aa is safe for you.

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