best juice to get?

**diesel21** · 01-01-2004, 12:49 PM

Ok so i decided what i'm gonna do..

qv cyp (or other test, what do you guys think)

eq (what brand?)

anavar (what brand?)

then of course clomid at the end.....

how should i take everything? and what are the best brands for this stuff?

i was thinking 500 mg of test, 600 eq and 50 mg anavar a day? i'm not gonna use any anti- e's (i do have nolva if needed though) then start clomid when done... how long should i do the cylce for and do i keep all levels the same or start at different intervals?

25 (5'7" 185-90) 10% body fat, 4th cylce, good diet)
thanx.... i'll post which kinds i can get

**diesel21** · 01-02-2004, 09:06 AM

bump, please help guys//

**iron4life79** · 01-02-2004, 09:13 AM

CALM DOWN BRO.......

you just posted this, give 'em time to answer.

those doses are fine for your 4th time around. you have to decide how long you want to run stuff, not us. we'll be happy to point out any weak spots, but the ultimate decision is yours.
i cant recommend brands for you either.......i dont know what brands you have access to.

be a little more specific, and we can help you more......

peace I4L

**TRE** · 01-02-2004, 09:17 AM

First of all either bump the test up to 750 or drop the eq down to 500. Always have your test higher then your other AS. As for as the test I would switch to Test E for QV to get the extra 50mg of test per ml. Since you have access to QV use there bolderone 200 for the eq. Most likely if you can get QV you can get Denkall. Use Denkall's Anaver, cheaper and not underdosed.

**TRE** · 01-02-2004, 09:18 AM

Oh yeah, I would run it for at least 14 weeks if you have that much cycle experience.

**magnusson** · 01-02-2004, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by TRE

First of all either bump the test up to 750 or drop the eq down to 500. Always have your test higher then your other AS. As for as the test I would switch to Test E for QV to get the extra 50mg of test per ml. Since you have access to QV use there bolderone 200 for the eq. Most likely if you can get QV you can get Denkall. Use Denkall's Anaver, cheaper and not underdosed.

I run EQ higher than test when I'm cutting and never have any problems, I don't think thats a great rule of thumb. As far as test QV E and Cyp are both good products IMO and Ive heard QV eq is good stuff also, I ran Syd group EQ and had great results. Also denkall anavar tested a little higher than 5 mgs so its killer stuff also.

**iron4life79** · 01-02-2004, 09:22 AM

tre is right........

i missed the test dose being lower. one needs to be raised or the other lowered. the test should at least be equal to the other major aas in your cycle.
i agree with the longer cycle too, since youre running eq in there.

peace I4L

**magnusson** · 01-02-2004, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by iron4life79

tre is right........

i missed the test dose being lower. one needs to be raised or the other lowered. the test should at least be equal to the other major aas in your cycle.
i agree with the longer cycle too, since youre running eq in there.

peace I4L

Just wondering why you feel you need more test than EQ when hes already running 500 mg.

I can completely understand If he was running Deca or Tren to combat sexual sides but not with EQ

**diesel21** · 01-02-2004, 09:29 AM

ok, thanx guys... what do you guys think is the safest length to run it?

(i guess i'll do 12 weeks, and see how it comes along)

and maybe i'll drop the eq to 400 a week, i hope i get something out of this cycle, we'll see, other wise, more test next time,
thanx again, any more comments greatly appreciated

**iron4life79** · 01-02-2004, 09:35 AM

eq is a mild/moderate anabolic , and you want at least the same amount of androgen to offset any sides that might arise. hence the equal amount of test.

eq can cause sexual sides as well bro. and with it being a long chain ester, it can take quite a while to get things going again. this dosent happen for all(like you), but it does for some.
diesel21 has to decide(if he dosent already know) if this is an issue he has to deal with. to be safe, i always recommend at least an equal amount. he can raise or lower doses accordingly.

diesel21......
12 weeks is the minimum i would go with eq in your cycle. it takes a while to see results from it, so 12-15 weeks is a good cycle time.

peace I4L

**diesel21** · 01-02-2004, 09:52 AM

so test e the way to go? i always just use sust, but i wanna try something different...
and would you guys start them all together? or introduce eq in a different week later on?
i was thinking
half dose a week to start of test, week 2 introduce eq half dose, hlafd dose test, week 3, full dosage for 12-25 weeks, then drop down...??

**magnusson** · 01-02-2004, 09:52 AM

gotcha, just depends on the user basically, just some aas are alot more likely to cause unwanted sides without as much test.

**diesel21** · 01-02-2004, 07:58 PM

how much anavar a day? i think the pills from denkal are 5 mg.. each.....

**diesel21** · 01-04-2004, 12:40 AM

bump

**Da Bull** · 01-04-2004, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by diesel21

how much anavar a day? i think the pills from denkal are 5 mg.. each.....

30-40 mgs ed is fine bro.

**diesel21** · 01-04-2004, 09:30 AM

wow, this cycle is gonna cost some big buckS!

**magnusson** · 01-04-2004, 12:48 PM

var definately aint cheap

**legend** · 01-04-2004, 01:19 PM

the var alone is going to run you around 350.00 for 200 tabs. i did them at 30mgs aday with great results. i bumped up to 40 for a few weks with no difference. stick to 30mg per day and you'll run it a litle longer. i also prefer test enathate over cypionate . they are almost exactly the same but i feel less water with the enathate.