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    Cycle change for me.....

    What do you guys think of this cycle?

    1st week sust 250 mg
    2nd week sust 500 and 200 eq
    3rd week sust 500 and 400 eq
    (4th to 15 week the same, but may go to 750 mg of sust weeks 6,7,8)

    week 14 and 15 slowly go to 250 of sust and 200 eq to level down graudually

    sound good? i have nol and clomid, but may just use clomid for post.

    any comments? add anything else? or how would it be better to do?

    (changed it a lil, anavar is way too expensive, it would be like a 2000$ cycle, fuc that!)

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    opps, 5'7" 190 now, (no uice) under 15% body fat, 25 yrs old 4th cycle...
    haven't touched anything in almost a yr

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    There is some great info on how to take sust around here. You're going to want to inject almost EOD to get the full benefits. I think it may have been luvmyroids that has the excellent info and experience on sust, check out his post on the subject and good luck!

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    There's no need to pyramid the doses. Start out week 1 with 500mg sust, and 400mg EQ. If you don't have enough, shorten the cycle a bit, but don't pyramid it.

    -moto

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    Like moto said do not pyramid your dosages....... it will make for unstable blood levels. Also, you need to inject the SUS at least EOD because of the short half lives of some of the test blend in SUS.

    I would also run nolva and clomid together for PCT.... I would also run at least nolva durring your cycle at 20mg ED

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    If this is his first cycle, it may be wise to cut it to 12 wks. jmo.

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    Am I wrong that it's only the test prop which is 30mg/250mg = 12% which is a short ester in sus250? That's hardly significant to have it be the deciding factor on frequency injection? I could see it being true that it would improve stability a LITTLE bit, but not that much big picture? If you were to graph up the test levels I would bet the prop would be a little noisy line superimposed on a larger more stable one if you were doing 1E4 or 1E5.

    I know WAY LESS than most about juice, just asking.

    Maybe I'm not hardcore enough, but I don't want to do Sus at 1g/week just for a little more stable prop

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    Bro don't pyramid.. Blood will be unstable.. If you do SUS it has to be done eod..

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    Quote Originally Posted by flopsy1234
    Am I wrong that it's only the test prop which is 30mg/250mg = 12% which is a short ester in sus250? That's hardly significant to have it be the deciding factor on frequency injection? I could see it being true that it would improve stability a LITTLE bit, but not that much big picture? If you were to graph up the test levels I would bet the prop would be a little noisy line superimposed on a larger more stable one if you were doing 1E4 or 1E5.

    I know WAY LESS than most about juice, just asking.

    Maybe I'm not hardcore enough, but I don't want to do Sus at 1g/week just for a little more stable prop
    No one is suggesting that he take 1g/week, they are just saying that he should split up the 500mg to 3-4 injections/week.

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    hmm, interesting.... so if i wanted to do 500 mg's a week, you think i should split it up? 2 shots isn't good?

    and how would i bring in the eq? right away also at 400 a week?

    thanx again for great comments!

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel21
    hmm, interesting.... so if i wanted to do 500 mg's a week, you think i should split it up? 2 shots isn't good?

    and how would i bring in the eq? right away also at 400 a week?

    thanx again for great comments!
    yes, split the eq to two doses .

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    i'm lookiing and searching threads, posts, can't find a lot of good info, i never heard of blood levels being off...
    can someone post a link, or tell me a little more about this? also, do i cold turkey when done on 15th week? or gradually go down (for both sust and eq)?
    thanx

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    found it, sounds weird,
    anyway, i get a lot of info from a family member that won the junior nationals 2 yrs ago... he loves sust, and it also worked great for me, i guess it just is different for everyone.

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    what about introducing the eq?

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