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    Thumbs up Final Cycle check it out

    Hey everyone
    Check this cycle out, let me know what you think. the idea is to hit the receptors hard while they are fresh and then move to a less androgenic product.

    wk 1-4 anadrol 50mg
    wk 1 Test 750mg
    wk 2-5 Test 500mg
    wk 1-2 deca 100mg
    wk 3 deca 300mg
    wk 4-5 deca 400mg
    wk 6 deca 300mg
    wk 7 deca 200mg
    wk 8 deca 100mg
    wk 5-8 d-bol 50mg ed
    wk 5 primobolan 100mg
    wk 6 primob 200mg
    wk 7-8 primob 300mg

    novle 20mg ed
    clomid+hcg clen to finish

    im 6ft 235 first time with anadrol, let me kno what you think
    Thanks
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    wow, that's complicated, first, pyramidding does nothing, second, front loading is overrated, and third, primo is a waste of money, not trying to be a dick, but that's just my opinion

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    and running hcg and clomid together will hurt your recovery

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    Why are you stopping test @ wk 5? Are you using prop?

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    the reason I am stoping test after wk 4 is b/c the receptors have been saturated and im moving to a less androgenic substance, the test will stay in the system, just a thought, let me kno,
    anything better.
    I would like to use anadrol any good cycles with it??
    thanks bro

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    and just to add, when i said hcg +clomid
    i am talking about 2 wk HCG then 2-3 wk clomid, sorry for the confusion

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    Much too unstable if you ask me. Keep things constant and simple.

    Stick with one test, at a steady dosage for the duration. Add one other compound at most for your first cycle. Like Deca since you have it listed. Run the test at a higher dosage than the deca and run a tad longer than the deca.

    JMO.

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    doc
    this wouldnt be my first cycle. but if you kno of any other tried and true cycle with anadrol fill me in...
    thanks

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    You’re set on using anadrol ?

    Well, lets look at this.

    The reason you want anadrol is for a quick boost in strength and weight I’m sure. So jump-starting the cycle with it is fine. Consider using Dbol instead and weigh them out.

    Now pick a test. I would recommend Enanthate or Cypionate since their single acting esters are likely to be less liable for side effects.

    If you want, stick with the Deca , but drop the primo. You’re running a bulking cycle here, plus primo is expensive and from what I understand hard to come by legit stuff.

    So then your cycle could look something like this:

    Wk 1-10 Test E/orCyp 400mg-500mg each week.
    Wk 1-9 Deca 300mg each week.

    Wk 1-15 Nolvadex (if Test E)
    Wk 12-15 Clomid
    Or
    Wk 1-16 Nolvadex (if Test Cyp)
    Wk 13-16 Clomid


    Savvy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocHoliday
    You’re set on using anadrol ?

    Well, lets look at this.

    The reason you want anadrol is for a quick boost in strength and weight I’m sure. So jump-starting the cycle with it is fine. Consider using Dbol instead and weigh them out.

    Now pick a test. I would recommend Enanthate or Cypionate since their single acting esters are likely to be less liable for side effects.

    If you want, stick with the Deca , but drop the primo. You’re running a bulking cycle here, plus primo is expensive and from what I understand hard to come by legit stuff.

    So then your cycle could look something like this:

    Wk 1-10 Test E/orCyp 400mg-500mg each week.
    Wk 1-9 Deca 300mg each week.

    Wk 1-15 Nolvadex (if Test E)
    Wk 12-15 Clomid
    Or
    Wk 1-16 Nolvadex (if Test Cyp)
    Wk 13-16 Clomid


    Savvy?

    Doc
    Wow, I didn't know WHERE to start with that mess...So I'll just say take Doc's advice
    I have ran these "Synergy" type fad cycles...they're over rated, but if I were ever going to (which I'm not) I'd still run test regardless.
    That's a pretty clean simple cycle Doc's got layed out for you there Bro, and you'll be happy with the results.
    (I am a bit lost on the difference of PCT timing though, since Enanthate has a slightly longer half life What's the thought on that Doc?)

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    I could be wrong, but I thought cyp’s timing for PCT ran a week longer than Enanthate . Thus it’s half life I assumed being longer than Enanthate’s.

    I can ALWAYS be wrong.

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    Yeah Doc...I think Enanthate is the Marathon Winner by a matter of hours. Actually, I have Chart that says it's longer by like a day or two, but I think it was Pheedno that was saying it's only like 4 hours or something like that....I THINK! ; ) (I could be wrong too....I got priors!)

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    LOL...BTW, that Chris Rock line freakin' Kills me!

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    Thanks (about the chris rock line)

    Wow, I feel stupid, I thought Cyp was longer.

    Then again, I do remember Pheedno saying something about a carbon atom and something being less in Cyp.

    He’s smart but way over my head. Ethereal in his wisdom.

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    Yeah, that was the thread I was thinking of where he said that. Which was kind of a relief to me cuz I could never really tell much differencce between Enth and Cyp...but after he said that I felt better, like "oh, well no wonder" cuz I grew and held water etc etc about the same on both....and yeah, he is freakin smart, if I was that smart I wouldn't be able to get my head in the Truck to go to work! I have a fairly hard time as it is...I consistently overate myself...some old habit are hard to break! ; )

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    Thanks for the compliments guys, it means a lot


    On the Enan/Cyp active life. Enan is 10.5-12, Cyp is 13-15.

    Half life is within a few hours of each other, between 3-4 days

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    Ahhh so Cyp is a bit longer lasting. I thought it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocHoliday
    Ahhh so Cyp is a bit longer lasting. I thought it was.
    OK, I'm really confused now, I could of swore it was the other way around, in fact I always did, I just thought they we're farther apart until Pheedno said (well... at least I thought he said ..LOL) that Enth was a few hours longer than Cyp???
    Hmmm, man, I would've bet $$ on it....glad I didn't.

    Anybody have a GOOD chart, I have several, and they're ALL wrong.

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    BTW Doc, your workout regime and Make up is working wonders Bro!!!
    You B Fine!
    (I used to think you looked kina like Kermit)

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    Hmmm, I was just looking at a Chart I'd recopied and saved a couple years ago when I was considering "starting up again"..you'll never guess, I've got Cyp listed Longer...I'm a Dork!
    My only excuse is that I was out of the game for 3 years...but man these are basics...I'll shut up.

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    Haha,

    But I don’t think it matters really which is longer. The administration time for PCT is the same for both, and that seems to matter most.

    Thanks, I had the boobs done a few weeks ago.

    Black and White is more flattering.

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