test is test no matter what right?

[DocHoliday]

Testosterone is testosterone, no matter what ester is bound too right?

I mean, prop isn’t a better “cutter” than cypionate right? I didn't think it was, but I'm questioning myslef.



Doc

[scottninpo]

prop is used in cutting cycles cause it keeps bloating to a minimum, but overall, test is test is test

[motoxxxguy]

Once the ester is removed, yes, test is test. People get different results from different esters, mainly in regards to varying levels of water retention due to the various timing of the ester being removed and making the test active.

The different esters also have different weights, which directly affects how much actual test you are getting. I don't know the exact numbers (I'll look for them), but prop, being a much shorter, and also smaller, ester than enanthate , allows more mg's of pure test per volume. Make sense?

-moto

[DocHoliday]

Once the ester is removed, yes, test is test. People get different results from different esters, mainly in regards to varying levels of water retention due to the various timing of the ester being removed and making the test active.

The different esters also have different weights, which directly affects how much actual test you are getting. I don't know the exact numbers (I'll look for them), but prop, being a much shorter, and also smaller, ester than enanthate , allows more mg's of pure test per volume. Make sense?

-moto

yup, thanks guys

[zodiac66]

The following is the actual amount of testosterone that is in each 100mg dose of the drug:

Testosterone Cypionate : 70mg
Testosterone Decanoate: 65mg
Testosterone Enantate: 72mg
Testosterone Isocaproate: 75mg
Testosterone Phenylpropionate: 69mg
Testosterone Propionate : 84mg
Testosterone Suspension : 100mg
Testosterone Undecanoate: 63mg

[DocHoliday]

Thank you Zodiac,

I’m going to work that info into my thread on gear.

Doc

[nevaenuf]

The following is the actual amount of testosterone that is in each 100mg dose of the drug:

Testosterone Cypionate : 70mg
Testosterone Decanoate: 65mg
Testosterone Enantate: 72mg
Testosterone Isocaproate: 75mg
Testosterone Phenylpropionate: 69mg
Testosterone Propionate : 84mg
Testosterone Suspension : 100mg
Testosterone Undecanoate: 63mg

The lighter the ester the more test that is recepted.

[skii96]

This is also the reason why tren acetate will cause less water retention then the new tren enanthate !

[DocHoliday]

This is also the reason why tren acetate will cause less water retention then the new tren enanthate!

Right, so a slightly better choice for bulking. I'm glad I know why now.

Doc

[motoxxxguy]

This is also the reason why tren acetate will cause less water retention then the new tren enanthate!

Do you get any water retention from tren in the first place? Without a conversion to estrogen, you should see very little, no matter what the ester.

-moto

[Dude-Man]

Do you get any water retention from tren in the first place? Without a conversion to estrogen, you should see very little, no matter what the ester.

-moto

I feel like water retention is caused by the ester itself changing the molality of your fat cells, causing water to rush in to make it isotonic. The strength of this reaction is dependant on the amount of estrogen in your system. So it's nost just esters, but also estrogen. I might be wrong though.

[carlo]

Godd info Zodiac, Thanks!

[skii96]

Do you get any water retention from tren in the first place? Without a conversion to estrogen, you should see very little, no matter what the ester.

-moto

Well not much but enough for me to stop it close to 2 wks out from a show to shed off the water i did hold with it. So if you arent competing then it probably doesnt matter.