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    Doc Holidays post for beginers........

    I just read Docs post for beginers. Nice post. I am not really a beginer, but compaired to many AS users, I am.

    I have done 2 cycles a year for 3 years. I do 1g test E and 500mg EQ a week for 14 weeks. I am 44, 200lbs and 5'7".

    I get no sides except increased sex drive in the beginning and reduced by the end. I have but never took Nolvadex .

    My problem..... Post Cycle, Clomid breaks me out so badly that I always quit taking it after the first week. Doc wrote that I should run the clomid and nolvadex together. Will this help? I bought hgc this time (over priced at $45 per amp)
    I only got 2 and thought about using them with the clomid.

    Any help would be great
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    BTW.... This Fri will be my last shot

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    The nolvadex wonít help the breakouts.

    The nolvadex just prevents estrogen backlash when used after cycle.

    I donít know how long your cycle is going to be, but I donít know if youíll need HCG for the therapy. If you do decide to use HCG after the cycle the clomid should be used after HCG is discontinued.

    Stick with the clomid this time.

    Your best bet is to find skin care products to combat the acne.

    Doc

    Ps. I like the name of your thread

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    think about getting a soap called panoxyl. i use at and ive gotten friends to use it while on and post cycle and it has worked well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sin
    think about getting a soap called panoxyl. i use at and ive gotten friends to use it while on and post cycle and it has worked well.
    Hey sin,

    Is that soap prescription? Iíll have to look into that.

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    Yeah, I want to know where to find it too!

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    no, its otc, but it costs about $5.00 a bar. around here i find it at normal grocery or drug stores.

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    Ill be looking for that soap too.
    After the cost of a cycle... What is $5.00

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBB
    Ill be looking for that soap too.
    After the cost of a cycle... What is $5.00
    Good philosophy. It is the things like those bars of soap and crap that make the using gear expensive.

    Doc

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    So after my last shopt of EQ, wiat 3 weeks, do 2 weeks of HGC, i week after my second shot of HGC start clomid???

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    Guess I should have reread that before I posted with all the typos LOL

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    i would skip the HCG if you are at the end of your cycle. it should be run while you are still on, because it can be catabolic. use the clomid in the normal fashion and run nolva at 10-20mg per day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBB
    So after my last shopt of EQ, wiat 3 weeks, do 2 weeks of HGC, i week after my second shot of HGC start clomid???
    Uhh fellas?

    3 weeks after last injection use HCG ? I donít think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sin
    i would skip the HCG if you are at the end of your cycle. it should be run while you are still on, because it can be catabolic. use the clomid in the normal fashion and run nolva at 10-20mg per day.
    I agree, I think the only time I would use HCG is in the middle of my cycle.

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    This is from this web site http://www.anabolicreview.com/drugpr...php?steroid=66
    It also covers the use of Hcg during a cycle.

    Since the body usually needs a certain amount of time to get its testoster-one production going again, the athlete, after discontinuing ste-roid compounds, experiences a difficult transition phase which often goes hand in hand with a considerable loss in both strength and muscle mass. Administering HCG directly after steroid treat-ment helps to reduce this condition because HCG increases the testosterone production in the testes very quickly and reliably.
    Most athletes, however, use HCG at the end of a treatment in order to avoid a "crash," that is, to achieve the best possible transition into "natural training."

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    i dont have time to dig up other posts on the subject, but you should. this info is misleading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBB
    Most athletes, however, use HCG at the end of a treatment in order to avoid a "crash," that is, to achieve the best possible transition into "natural training."
    The misleading part is this. You WILL crash after you discontinue use of HCG .

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    I posted this question because there are no better sources of good info than those that have personally tested.
    I will take your advice
    Thanks

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