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    Question Winny/EQ/Track&field

    Alright fellas,
    I need some advice on what to use for Track.
    I run track in college. Actually I do everything.
    "Decathlete". For those who dont know what that is,
    It's 10 events 100m,LongJump,ShotPut,HighJump,400,
    110Hrdls,Discus,Polevault,Javelin,1500
    Anyways Im needing help on a cycle. I know for sure winstrol .
    But what I've read im thinking about maybe EQ also and Maybe even Prop.
    im not really to sure the effects of Prop, but I definately dont wanna be Dehydrated during practice.
    My practice is pretty much from 1:30 to around 6:30 5 days a week
    I dont think i'd have to worry about the testing. Hopefully that wont be a prob for me.
    But I'm kinda leaning on just the Winny/EQ
    If yall guys think throw the test in there also, tell me why.
    And this is my First cycle.
    But see if yall can help me out with a cycle I wanna know how long to run them and if there is a peak time while taking them.
    My stats
    21
    5'11"
    175-180lbs
    %bf- 9 or 10
    I will definately have strict diet.
    I would like to drop eventually to about 6 or 7 or possibly lower.
    And be about the same weight no more than 185.
    thanks, guys

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    As a college athlete I assume you are subject to testing. EQ is a great drug but not for you. It has a 5 month clearance time. I would stick to the meat and potaotes. Test prop is good b/c it clears in about 2-3 weeks and you won't bloat much on it. Test prop goes well with winny injectable. Winny injectable will clear in about 5 weeks and winny tabs in about three.

    As a decathlete I would run a mild dose of winny and prop. Your main goal is not to add size but to improve athletic performance. If you stick with d-bol, winny and prop you will be good to go. These are what have kept many sprinters and jumpers going that I know of.

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    Ok ok sounds good.
    But I am going to be red-shirting this year. And even if I was not, I would not have to worry about testing.
    And therefore I'd rather stick with the EQ. I like the sound of improve vascularity. not the only reason but, I think I wanna go with go with this stack.
    Winstrol Depot/EQ/Prop
    So if some of you guys could help me plan out the cycle (hou much and when)
    I would appreciate it
    And also if I need nolvadex and clomid and how to use those exactly
    Thanks

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    Since you say you have no chance of beeing tested then by all means feel free to use EQ. It is great for strength gains and it won't bloat you like Deca .

    I would look at something like this:

    week 1-12: EQ @ 400mg/week
    week 6-14: winny @ 50mg EOD
    week 6-14: prop @ 100mg EOD
    week 1-5: d-bol @ 25mg/day. ( this is to kickstart the gaind until the EQ kicks in )

    Start clomid three weeks after your last shot of EQ. You can either go 20mgNolva/day + 100mg Clomid per day for 4 weeks or go Clomid only for 3 weeks as follows:
    day 1: 300mg
    day 2-11: 100mg/day
    das 12-21: 50mg/day

    You can cut the EQ back to 10 weeks but no less than that. It has a long half life. I have seen many make excellent gains off of this exact cycle. Keep nolva on hand but it is unlikely that you will need it.

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    Alright, what do you guys think of this?

    week 1-10: EQ @ 400mg/week
    week 6-13: winny @ 50mg EOD
    week 6-13: prop @ 100mg EOD
    week 1-5: d-bol @ 25mg/day.

    Clomid 3 weeks after last inj of EQ.
    day 1: 300mg
    day 2-11: 100mg/day
    das 12-21: 50mg/day

    Let me know yall's ideas and suggestions

    AND also any good places to pick these supplies up for cheap but still good.
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    Alright, what do you guys think of this?

    week 1-10: EQ @ 400mg/week
    week 6-13: winny @ 50mg EOD
    week 6-13: prop @ 100mg EOD
    week 1-5: d-bol @ 25mg/day.

    Clomid 3 weeks after last inj of EQ.
    day 1: 300mg
    day 2-11: 100mg/day
    das 12-21: 50mg/day

    Let me know yall's ideas and suggestions

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    instead of the d-bol you could use anadrol , it will increase the amount of red blood cells in the body which in will increase your endurance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decat
    Alright, what do you guys think of this?

    week 1-10: EQ @ 400mg/week
    week 6-13: winny @ 50mg EOD
    week 6-13: prop @ 100mg EOD
    week 1-5: d-bol @ 25mg/day.

    Clomid 3 weeks after last inj of EQ.
    day 1: 300mg
    day 2-11: 100mg/day
    das 12-21: 50mg/day

    Let me know yall's ideas and suggestions
    This one looks good. The d-bol at the start is a good adition as it will get into the system fast. Otherweise you would be waiting 4-5 weeks before you really start to feel the EQ.

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    Ok I think I might be changing this up.
    What would yall say about a cycle of just Winny and Anavar?
    how would you cycle that.
    i guess Im not really looking for that EQ and test right now maybe next cycle.
    Thanks

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    Any suggestions on a cycle of JUST anavar and winny?
    Speed,Endurance,Strength.

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    Don't listen to the guy that said that anadrol .. I really hope he was kidding!

    Just remember Winny could make your joints sore. Other drugs you need to look into is Halotestin and anavar . If only THG was easier to come by i'd reccomend that

    Another popular drug is EPO for endurance, but could lead to death if used improperly.

    Good luck to you from a retired track star

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    Yea I kinda looked in to that anadriol and was like Hmmm....

    But yea I think I'm gonna go with Winny/Anavar in season
    and Something like EQ/Prop/anavar in off-season.
    I think I would be alright with the Winny considering I take Joint supplements.
    Glucosamine & Chondroitin

    But. I still need some help on figuring out a cycle of Winny/Anavar

    Please help!

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    slangin roids why would you rule out the anadrol , it stacks great with winstrol , helps keep the joints lubricated and incrases strength. the only thing to worry about would be the water bloat and that can be kept in check with nolvadex . If im wrong please tell me why but i have done this stack a few times while i was wrestling and it worked out very well for me.

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    Because track and field is about speed, and in order to have the most effective speed: you don't want to carry unnecessary water weight. Most of the gains of anadrol are from water anyway, and using nolvadex will get rid of SOME of the BLOAT, but not all. Hence your still carrying unnecessary water weight. With track you want to get your muscles as strong as they can while staying as light as you can (which is why winny and halo are often used).

    Another reason is because you hardly keep any gains with anadrol. It's one of the worst, if not the worst rated steroid for keeping gains.

    I've heard of track athletes doing light ammounts of test to speed up recovery. I had a link about about some of the track and field uses but I'll have to dig it up. I believe someone on this site PM'ed it to me months ago.

    Decat also remember with Glucosamine that it takes 3-4 weeks to start working, so be prepared ahead of time before you take winny. My friends a decathlete also and
    i'm wondering if you will compete against him sometime
    this season (in Div I)

    Well goodluck

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