I'm high and also a question about my cycle

**Nathan** · 01-12-2004, 12:40 AM

It's all good though, I'm pretty much not sick now (knock on wood) and smoked from a vaporiser so the smoke issue harming my immune system is not even an issue. Thanks for asking and showing some concern for my health. Man alive, I forgot how nice and peaceful this is. Oh yeah, and I want to start my cycle tomorrow but my left nip is still a bit sensitive and my nips are sometimes a little puffy still. It was from igf-1 though from gh, not estrogen (I'm only using 10mg of d-bol in the am and am on 1mg of l-dex a day and 20-40mg of nolva a day and also 1.25mg of bromo ED). I'm thinking of upping the l-dex to 1.5-2mg ED and dropping the nolva and starting my test (1g per week). Whatcha think? Am I retarded? Or does it make sense since the nip sensitivity isn't from estrogen anyways, but rather from igf-1 which is independent of test supplementation? Stop me if I'm being impetuous please. I can wait longer if I must, though obviously that alternative blows if there is no need. Also, I was on 1g of test before and 1mg of l-dex ED did the trick for me then. **** all of you in the face and stuff. Three cheers for drugs.

**DocHoliday** · 01-12-2004, 12:45 AM

Nathan you should be fine my high flying friend.

The nip sensitivity is from the igf-1 like you said. I don’t know much more, but if you’ve taken enough time off and your blood levels are good, then by all means, upon landing start the cycle.

Doc

**Nathan** · 01-12-2004, 12:53 AM

I have been "off" for 16 weeks now or so. I have been using the 10mg of d-bol and used gh for some of that time but other than that and the anti-e's and clomid, no gear. Stop laughing at me, I know it's not technically off of anything. It was weird this time, my nuts returned to full size off cycle and then shrunk some again like 6-8 weeks after clomid therapy (though I may have used like 15mg od d-bol in there), and now the nuts are back. I need blood work I realize but this time I'm saying **** it since I'm aiming for a comp in the spring. It's irresponsible, sure, and I'll have not allowed my test to fully recover for over a year when I do again, but it wasn't realistic for competing I didn't think. Anyways, thanks brother. I'm a rationaliser, in that I rationalise dumb things to myself knowing full well that no rational thought has occurred. Still though, human nature is human nature after all.

Swellin · 01-12-2004, 12:54 AM

Out of curiosity, what will you be running that will require all of that Bromo?

Oh yeah, I had a little help from the herb last night, and I was lucid for the first time in weeks...that was quite a nice thing!

**Nathan** · 01-12-2004, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by swellin

Out of curiosity, what will you be running that will require all of that Bromo?

Oh yeah, I had a little help from the herb last night, and I was lucid for the first time in weeks...that was quite a nice thing!

I started the bromo since I thought maybe there was some prolactin causing the puffy and sore nip, but I have since been corrected. In any event, I';ll be running 400mg of deca phenylpropionate with it at 400mg a week or a bit more maybe. Never used so deca (one of the few left) since it was always so long-acting which I dislike. It should be good.

**DocHoliday** · 01-12-2004, 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by Nathan

I have been "off" for 16 weeks now or so. I have been using the 10mg of d-bol and used gh for some of that time but other than that and the anti-e's and clomid, no gear. Stop laughing at me, I know it's not technically off of anything. It was weird this time, my nuts returned to full size off cycle and then shrunk some again like 6-8 weeks after clomid therapy (though I may have used like 15mg od d-bol in there), and now the nuts are back. I need blood work I realize but this time I'm saying **** it since I'm aiming for a comp in the spring. It's irresponsible, sure, and I'll have not allowed my test to fully recover for over a year when I do again, but it wasn't realistic for competing I didn't think. Anyways, thanks brother. I'm a rationaliser, in that I rationalise dumb things to myself knowing full well that no rational thought has occurred. Still though, human nature is human nature after all.

I couldn’t imagine having a conversation with you right now. You must be bent or crooked. :lol

I don’t think it’s irrational. It is rational. The rational is that you want to be ready for competition. In 16 months you’ve done dbol , and that’s the only thing aside from the IGF-1 that you’ve ran?

Yeah technically that’s not taking time off, but how badly do you think you’ve been affected by those dbols? Not much I wouldn’t imagine.

Keep it “up” Panama Red

Swellin · 01-12-2004, 01:03 AM

I just wondered because I keep reading about the myriad sides the can come about from Bromo. I have not found the info on the sides, but it seems to be a constant among many posts.

**Nathan** · 01-12-2004, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by swellin

I just wondered because I keep reading about the myriad sides the can come about from Bromo. I have not found the info on the sides, but it seems to be a constant among many posts.

Personally, I find the sides bery tolerable. If taken before bed for me when I start it, I get no sides but wood all the time. After a few days of use, I get no sides whenever I take it except the wood all the time. And thanks DocHoliday.

**Nathan** · 01-13-2004, 02:39 AM

Pay more attention to me please.

**BDTR** · 01-13-2004, 03:10 AM

I wouldn't run the bromo unless you're absolutely sure you need it man... Gives me horrible stomach aches.. this coming from a guy who chews up anadrol like candy and washes it down with a bottle of hot sauce.

**TheSevnthWarrior** · 01-13-2004, 03:43 AM

Dude, you just don't post enough....Holy **** I'm frickin' diein' here....Everytime you post it takes me 20 minutes to catch my breath! OMG my stomach hurts...and bdtr aint helpin' w/ the Anadrol washed down w/Hot Sauce thing...you guys are killin me.
But on a serious note, have you really been off for 4 freakin' months? Man I don't see how big guys do that and stay big, seriously I don't. Now that I'm back in the game I can't imagine for the life of me (and it very well may be) going off that long.

Hehe, I'm liking the 4-5 months on, 40 days PCT/Rest Break, and do it again idea?

And I have zero aspirations of doin' any show/comp.
Thanks for the belly ache

LORDBLiTZ · 01-13-2004, 03:49 AM

Originally Posted by Nathan

Pay more attention to me please.

No! Go to bed

**Nathan** · 01-13-2004, 01:07 PM

SevethWarrior:

There was d-bol and gh in there helping me out of course. Otherwise, there's no way in hell I could maintain 220 @ 8% off cycle. I felt good about my body while "off" and that generally takes time to get back, unless you bridge like I did.

****, I still haven't gone on yet, and will try and wait until tomorow probably to see how the nip is doing. Rightnow though, the pain is subsiding a lot and I think some of hte puffiness is going too. Knock on wood. LEt's keep this going please. Why anyone gave me a body is beyond me.