please, if you've tried one of these 2 cycles, fill in this scheme!

[fabry]

1) dbol (kickstart) + test enth
pro:
con/sides:
strenght:
gains:
strenght:
gains quality:
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2) test enth + eq
pro:
con/sides:
strenght:
gains:
strenght:
gains quality:
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3) wich one do you prefer?
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thanks for your answers!!!

[Mallets back]

How many cycles have you done before bro? and what are your stats? and what do you want to accomplish?

[fabry]

how many cycles... with one of these one will be... 1!

i started to get dbols and test but now i have big problem to find dbols to complete the for weeks and can only find eq quite soon.
so im thinking of changing cyclle and save the 100 dbols i have for another cycle and get eq that i saw some newbie have been suggested too for a first combo cycle.
nolva, ldex while on cycle and clomid, nolva for pct i already have...
just cannot wait to start.

32 yrs, 175-180 lbs, 1,83mt... not sure about bf, probably 15%.
goals? 10-15 pounds of good muscles...

[Da Bull]

I like the test/eq....low sides,great pumps,quality gains without to much bf,use l-dex and nolv and you'll be real happy with the cycle.Nice strength gains also.

[Mallets back]

you could still run 4 d-bol/day for 30 days if you can get your hands on 20 more tabs. stack it with 500mgs/week of test and 400-600mgs/week of eq. You won't likely need nolva with those low doses...but you could take 20mgs/day post cycle for a month if you like...keep them on hand just incase the nipps get a little sore, but don't take them otherwise.

[Shortyrock13]

1) dbol (kickstart) + test enth
pro:
con/sides:
strenght:
gains:
strenght:
gains quality:

Pro: instant and very noticable strength and mass gains. Sick pumps from the dbol.

con: taking dbol in the evening made me have trouble sleeping, had a body acne breakout around wk 5-6 when I came off dbol and was on only test. Def. water retention noticed around wk 2, had to up the dose of anti-e's.

strength: through the roof, went from a 250 bench max to repping 250 7 times by wk 5, squat went from 330x6 to 350x7 by wk 5.

gains: from 174 to 194 pretty lean, lost the sixpack, but not by much.

gains quality: solid, noticed a slight decrease in size after coming off dbol as test was just starting to kick, and everything was very low dose. ( 30mg dbol ed, 300mg test wk). Your back, shoulders and traps BLOW up while on dbol, very noticeable, if you are trying to be ultra discreet not the best cycle .

Test is the **** tho, if nothing else the confidence you feel is worth it, not cocky and obnoxious(unless you're already like that), but just confident and a sense of well being.

[RUDY-14]

WHat were you taking for anti-e's, and at what dosages? Did the acne subside when you upped the doseage?

[Bruce willis]

has anyone noticed a blow up of their chest and arms and traps during a cycle liek this?

[fabry]

sorry guys, this is my thread...
i just want answers for my questions!
thanks